I work on a 150GRT Harbor Tug that requires 3 crew members: 1 licensed Master, 1 QMED, and 1 deckhand. I am the “deckhand” and hold a 500T/Mate/NC and Mate of Towing license. I can legally stand watch as a mate but it doesn’t happen that often. My daily duties are very similar to those of a “Mate”.
Is there a way for me to get “Mate” sea time towards my 500T Master License? Could “Deckhand” be considered “Equivalent Position”? Is there a particular language that I could include in my sea time letter to address this issue such as “Mate Trainee” or “Master Trainee”?
But the COI doesn’t call for a mate correct? If the company is willing to falsify a seatime letter and write it as Mate time instead of deckhand, I’d be gravely concerned about what else they’d be willing to falsify to the Coast Guard.
Not to mention, if NMC catches that one, you’d feel the heat from it and not just your company.
So, by that same mindset, a 1600 ton mate on an OSV that has a COI that doesn’t call for a “Chief Mate” should be able to have his sea time letter say chief mate? This one has been asked and answered. If you’re a deckhand, you’re a deckhand, if you’re a mate, you’re a mate. Same as the Mate vs Chief Mate sea time letters.
Yeah, I know that CFR too. Helped people use it even. The company still can’t write up the sea time letter as Chief Mate if there’s no Chief Mate on the vessel. Everyone that I know that has used the “next in line to the Master” has had to get a separate letter attesting to them serving in that position.
Yeah, there are OSVs that actually call for a Chief Mate on the COI these day bub. Have you been paying attention??
That was an old (incorrect) requirement by the NMC that some companies are still afraid of even though they can write Chief Mate in the sea time letter. Even my tug company writes Chief Mate sea time letters.
Tugboats, fishing boats, and many research vessels and are uninspected vessels with no COI. The Mate positions are whatever title anyone wants to call them. When there are two mates, most companies and the logbooks use the titles Chief mate and second mate.
If there’s no COI and no manning requirement, then why are they a chief mate or a mate even? Why wouldn’t they be a Bosun or an AB? Obviously it’d come down to whether they stood a navigational watch I guess as the oicnw (actual rating not required). But even in those cases why should it be up to the company or captain to decide whatever it is. I think in the OPs description of his job he’s the one and only deckhand, that makes him a deckhand as far as the USCG would see it. Maybe Mr Cavo will weigh in; it seems pretty straight forward, but what do I know.
The CFRs require a licensed Master and at least one licensed Mate for a tugboat, and for a voyage over 600 miles two licensed mates. Some companies for some vessels elect to provide two licensed mates regardless of voyage length. The fact that the vessel does not have a COI is irrelevant.
For those of you who live in the COI world, deep sea, oil patch, passenger boats, ferries, etc., it may seem odd not to have a COI, but the very vast majority of US commercial vessels, particularly something like 10,000 tugs and Towboat’s , do not have COIs. That is changing with Subchapter M, but it’s a slow change taking place over several years.
Fishing vessels over 200 GRT must have licensed officers, but they are not inspected and do not have a COI. Neither do most research vessels.
Yea I agree those are totaly mate duties, but as the only deckhand, if he’s standing a watch he’d have no one to handle lines or do any deck work while he’s in the pilot house, unless he gave the wheel over to the captain.