So seems this is the latest and greatest way to thin the heard. Not accepted by USCG but good enough to get you fired. Gattaca…
Are there any companies out there doing this? From what I understand its a lot more expensive then piss testing.
Are you allowed to choose where the hair comes from?
I mean…if you’re bald…just saying.
Yes they did it here. People stupid enough to risk their livelyhood over getting high deserve to loose their jobs.
“Are you allowed to choose where the hair comes from?” They took from the back of the scalp and from the leg. But for those of you bald guys with hairless legs, do not fear! My understanding is that any follicle can be used and can detect usage as far as a year back.
It was applied on one rig that I know of at ensco.
[QUOTE=Nautical Wheeler;154293]Yes they did it here. People stupid enough to risk their livelyhood over getting high deserve to loose their jobs.
“Are you allowed to choose where the hair comes from?” They took from the back of the scalp and from the leg. But for those of you bald guys with hairless legs, do not fear! My understanding is that any follicle can be used and can detect usage as far as a year back.[/QUOTE]
Where be here?
[QUOTE=Ea$y Money;154295]Where be here?[/QUOTE]
I be here at ECO.
[QUOTE=Nautical Wheeler;154304]I be here at ECO.[/QUOTE]
Just curious. Folks is stupid all over, sure ECO just thought of it first. It is mind boggling that people risk a 6 figure income for a buzz. I personally don’t give a rats ass about what they do at home, but we all signed on the dotted line saying we wouldn’t. The herd needs thinned anyway. Rather see these types go vs. the working people that made a simple mistake. Not refilling the toilet paper roll is now grounds for termination…
[QUOTE=Ea$y Money;154305]Just curious. Folks is stupid all over, sure ECO just thought of it first. It is mind boggling that people risk a 6 figure income for a buzz. I personally don’t give a rats ass about what they do at home, but we all signed on the dotted line saying we wouldn’t. The herd needs thinned anyway. Rather see these types go vs. the working people that made a simple mistake. Not refilling the toilet paper roll is now grounds for termination…[/QUOTE]
ECO is such a wonderful company.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;154312]ECO is such a wonderful company.[/QUOTE]
Weighing all the good vs all the bad, it really is. It is not perfect, no company is. And as I said in another post, depending on the division, Manager, Coordinator, Vessel and Captain, 20 people hired the same day can have 20 different experiences. It is a large company that has faced a lot of growing pains. Someone can come to work here and because of one bad coordinator, condemn the entire company as the worst place on Earth. Office people get fired too. Point is, just because you have a bad experience with one Captain or one coordinator, there is no excuse not to switch coordinators or even divisions. Not all people get along but thats okay. I guess I have been fortunate in my 12 years here.
As far as grounds for termination for not refilling the toilet paper, there is only one Master, I ever heard of here who was that much of an ass, and all he can do is run you off his boat. But I have worked with other ass-clowns before at other companies. The coordinators and Manager know that if Captain ****** ****** of the OSV ********* writes you up for something stupid, it dosent carry much weight as far as getting someone fired. You have to mess up pretty bad over a period of time to actually get run off.
Drug testing will just get the majority of the drug heads out of the work place. I do not take drugs, therefore I do not worry about it. All it does is make my license that much more valuable. In another 6 months or so from now, when things bounce back, things will be good again. And for you new folks out there, know this, After Katrina, things got slow. Six months later, our day rates jumped up by “a lot” a day. After the Horizon explosion, things got bad. a year later, our rates went up again by another “a lot”.
You know who else enjoyed scraping hair off of other people?..
Wonder how many of the negative ECO comments are coming from people STILL employed at ECO? As someone who has bills and a family to provide for, they are about as reliable as a place to work as any. Back to the hair follicle title of this thread, rumor has it that a bunch of office personnel have received thy boot for testing positive!
Chevron is also carrying the hair test policy. New to the boat? Chevron requires them to be hair tested within a certain time frame. And that is not a downturn policy. That policy has been in effect for about a year now.
Some facts about this method of testing that might interest one and all
https://www.omegalabs.net/hair-testing-service/hair-testing-faqs/other-services.cmsx
[QUOTE=ForkandBlade;154333]Wonder how many of the negative ECO comments are coming from people STILL employed at ECO? As someone who has bills and a family to provide for, they are about as reliable as a place to work as any. Back to the hair follicle title of this thread, rumor has it that a bunch of office personnel have received thy boot for testing positive![/QUOTE]
That was confirmed last week.
From a purely selfish point of view, I should want to see the USCG, and all employers use hair testing. It would get rid of some of my competition. It would also reduce the number problem crewmen sent to the boats.
However, as a freedom and privacy loving American, all of these government, employer, and insurance company, invasions of privacy have gone way too far.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;154420]From a purely selfish point of view, I should want to see the USCG, and all employers use hair testing. It would get rid of some of my competition. It would also reduce the number problem crewmen sent to the boats.
However, as a freedom and privacy loving American, all of these government, employer, and insurance company, invasions of privacy have gone way too far.[/QUOTE]
I feel the same as you. Half of me says it’s nunya bizness what you do on your own time, and the other half resents the people who indulge and get away with it.
I think a big problem in our industry, though, is from legally prescribed and over the counter medications. Any more accidents by people jacked up on anti-depressants and cold medicine and they’ll make it like the FAA where you can’t sail after taking Benedryl for x number of hours.
The CG is trying to address some of that with this new proposed rule they are accepting comments on, but what this will result in is even more people operating ships while using said medication. Not less
[QUOTE=catherder;154444]I feel the same as you. Half of me says it’s nunya bizness what you do on your own time, and the other half resents the people who indulge and get away with it. s[/QUOTE]
Let’s start with the White House first, then down to workers.
When the results of monthly testing of legislators, government decision makers, and everyone wearing a badge or donating more than $500 to a political campaign are made part of the public record I will grudgingly surrender to Big Brother and this part of 1984.
[QUOTE=Steamer;154464]Let’s start with the White House first, then down to workers.
When the results of monthly testing of legislators, government decision makers, and everyone wearing a badge or donating more than $500 to a political campaign are made part of the public record I will grudgingly surrender to Big Brother and this part of 1984.[/QUOTE]
I agree. When the people making the laws and running the corporations that control our lives demand the right to hold the rest of us to a higher standard than they themselves wish to adhere to then we no longer have a democracy but something much, much worse.
If we going to have drug testing, it should include everyone getting a government check, especially welfare and unemployment checks.