I would never put my license up for someone who discussed pay for a delivery as an hourly rate and I don’t know anyone competent they would either.
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You didn’t even make us read between the lines, you came out and said it. Why would we put our licenses on the line for so little clarity about pay? I wouldn’t show up to your boat for $20/hr and for a chief engineer?! And for how many hours? Is this for 4 hours? For 8? For 12? You sound like you want top level talent at bargain basement prices and no one worth anything would waste their time with that. As an employer, you either do one of two things - boast about your big wages secretly, or boast about your great company that maybe can’t pay too dollar yet, openly. you can’t really be secretive about your company and also secret about pay and hope that we just trust you. Id bet people would be interested in side work if the price was right, but your whole post is a red flag and I’d be willing to bet that nobody gets close to your higher end of the scale.
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I think most employers, most Mariners, and most Americans have grown very lax about Covid shots and masks. That’s part of the reason that Covid is currently making a resurgence.
At the moment, most employers are focused on crewing up.
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Well, it sounds like JW Bossman has just the job for you.
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Please, oh please, master let me work for you for pennies on the dollar, I want to work for you so bad, I only want $100 per day for my unlimited license, please just give me the chance, master. Please let me fly to bum fuck nowhere swamp town Louisiana, let me get bitten up by the mosquitoes in the blistering Gulf heat during summer and illegally work past my MLC and STCW hours for a measly pittance, please master, I beg you, I only ask peanuts in return, just being in your presence proving how hard I can work for you is all I ask. What do I need to do to be given the opportunity?
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Hey JW Oceans, pay peanuts and you get monkeys. Shame on you.
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see. can’t make everyone happy. tell me what 500 ton master is making more than 840 per 12 day and i bet they are staying put.
there are too many types of tonnage/HP licenses out there for me to make a spread sheet for some idiot on a keyboard.
i’ll not beg you to work for me, and i do not expect you to beg me for a job. Grown up values, grown up ideas, manly ideals. grow up and hunt if your hungry.
Hey JW, I am not certain what grown up values or manly ideals are, but I don’t believe $20 an hour is a grown up wage. Manly ideals, that is funny! 
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12 hours x $70 = $840 a day on the payroll, plus benefits, plus full travel, is ok, and probably a bit better than midrange.
However, on a 1099 with no employer contributions or benefits, $840 is probably more like $700, and without any benefits.
Some companies have trouble understanding that temps on 1099s need to be paid more than their regular employees to earn the same net amount.
One off Delivery jobs are never going to have benefits, and are often going to be on a 1099.
$700 a day is ok for a local guy doing a delivery on his time off, or a retired guy looking for something to do once in awhile. Just make sure that $70 an hour gets paid 12 hours a day everyday (including the first and last day).
However, he only wants to pay $840, average pay, which nets out to about $700 on a 1099, to guys that he thinks can walk on water. He wants to pay a lot less for 95% of his typical applicants. Somehow I doubt that he intends to pay 12 hours a day every day either.
If someone wants to work, but doesn’t have other options, then as they say: “any port in a storm”
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Most trip guys “Competent Wheelman” I know
were between the $900-$1200 range, that was
months ago on tugs, guys making $900 day
towing scows regular pay, if vessel wages can’t
go up and keep up, it ain’t worth doing unless
you wanna just live on a vessel, tell a plumber
to come work on anything and give him $20-70
Hr
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Working full time for $20 per hour produces an annual income of $41,600. This is lower than both the national average income of $60,575 and the median income of $70,784. Good luck filling those billets. A guy can probably make more than 20 bucks an hour sitting on his ass panhandling. Be your own boss!
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Given the number of posts you’ve made about it, you sound triggered, snowflake.
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We have some choices in this industry regarding
the buying power playing field, 1. Make a higher
day rate 2. Work more days 3 Change profession
4. Lower your standards
all in all i agree with most posts, a note, and maybe y’all can chime in and give your 2 cents. what is the going rate of a green OS straight from the REC? or a fresh mate with the ink still wet? because the way i see it, $240 is more than i made at my first captains job.
If that is what a green hand is getting today, then what are the support staff getting? office people? shipyard workers? because i not only own a boat company i also own a shipyard, these topics do interest me.
these guys at the shipyard work a solid 10 hrs a day in some of the worst conditions imaginable. i have never been on a boat where these types of conditions would even be considered.
to the young guys looking to break out, my first deckhand job was $5.25 per hr. 3 months on/ 1 month off NO OVERTIME! In the first few years suck it up and put in the time. you will upgrade and move up fast. And for christ sake, keep your nose clean
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That’s nothing, I had to walk to school in the snow, barefoot. Uphill both ways.
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When was your first captains job? What year, because 240USD in say 1980 would be 890USD today
More over, if you want to hire people, be up front, what will someone make for each berth?
And stop, just stop with the “I had it so hard crap” it’s silly and makes you look desperate
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Times have changed, the days of folks wearing orange jump suits inside a yard with a 10’
fence with barbed wire on top & 24 hour guard
& ruling with an iron fist mentality has been
gone for years in this country & not suggesting
your company is like that, the amount of time
folks sacrifice away from home , the amenities
we go without, the immediate medical care
that we may be far from, lack of representation
if working hours abused, and being able to pass
background checks for T.W.I.C. and many other
Certs & credential’s would suggest that mariners
are paid well & accordingly especially when it’s
no fault of our own the shortage of crews & the
root cause of that.
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As one way I’ve heard it said “We’re just like
pigeons, whoever throws us the most crumbs
thats where we go”.
In a better world, green OS guys would be cheap and in it mostly to learn and build some skills, and be grateful for the opportunity.
However, that’s not how it works today. I’ve had deckhands in last couple of years from $300 to $550 depending on skills and experience. In some cases, no MMC needed.
A lot of what a seaman gets paid for is being away from home. So there isn’t much comparison to shipyard workers who go home at night.
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