Be careful what you wish for.
It’s sounds like the UK needs to be more like the US, with substantial beneficial US ownership requirements for fishing vessels.
To a certain extent I agree with you but the commoners misplaced their anger. It should have been directed to the international bankers and oligarchs who sold the country to the lowest bidder. Now it remains to be seen if the commoners can, by themselves rebuild the industry of the UK. It will be an interesting experiment.
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I’m not narcissistic enough to claim 17,400,000 people (51.9%) voted incorrectly based on their misplaced beliefs & anger. Of the 8-12 Britton’s that I talked with who voted to leave all seemed like intelligent people. I haven’t yet met a Britton who voted pro-EU. The 2 things I remember the most about those conversations is all were patriotic towards their homeland & most mentioned something about wanting to reunite ties with their former colonies. I can’t blame them for wanting to be close to those that they have the most in common with & who they historically trusted. Makes sense to me.
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Did you happen to talk to anybody from England or Wales that voted to remain?
Not to mention anybody from the majority in Scotland and Northern Ireland?
Large swats in the south of England and in Wales voted to remain:
This was especially so in and around London:
Age, political leaning and education level also played a big role in the way people vote:
What about residents of Gibraltar and other overseas British possessions that was dragged into this against their will? They voted largely to remain, but are very heavily affected by Brexit:
Not sure if their more recent large colonies, like India, Burma, Nigeria and the East African countries are as Anglophile as US appears to be. (??)
(Or does that stretch to trade relation, not just infatuation with the Royal Family?)
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Nope, I know there’s a 16.1 million minority that wanted to stay but I never talked with any. If you look at your bar graph with the break down by age you’d see why. I mostly talked with retirees at a pub I hang out in near a cruise terminal, pre-covid19 of course. Once a UK flagged research vessel came into town with a younger crowd but they weren’t as talkative, especially about politics. They grew rowdier & rowdier as the night went on & those with any sense left early.
About the minority being dragged out of the EU. That is unfortunate for them. Sincerely, I hope they use the legal & democratic systems available to reach some type of recourse that will make them happy. But IMO, it is better to have a minority unhappily living independently than have a majority that feels they are living under oppression.
On the John le Carre thread, post 37, a commentor named tomahawk described why he voted the way he did to leave. His thought out, unemotional explanation sounded very similar to the other explanations I heard. They didn’t come from hateful or dumb people. I can understand them & don’t blame them for being in a majority.
UK consists of 4 nations, England, Wales, Scotland and a slice of the island of Ireland. This goes back in history for centuries, with largely homogeneous populations in each, until fairly recently.
PS> All of the island of Ireland was British until 1922.
In some sports they compete as independent countries.
Three of them have their own Assembly and Government with some degree of autonomy, much like the States in the United States.
England does not have a Government separate from Westminster, nor do they have their own Assembly, only constituent members of the Parliament and resident Lords in the House of Lords.
On top of that you have oddities like the Isle of Man, Jersey, Guernsey and Sark that is semi-autonomous, self-governing British territories, but not part of the UK.
And the afore mentioned British Oversea Territories, like Gibraltar, Bermuda, The Falkland Islands to mention but a few.
you mean the places relying on welfare voted to stay in a socialist organization, shock horror who would have guessed
where did you get that one that Ireland would ever let NI join them?
You need to go back and check why NI even exists and didnt go with Ireland when it gained independence
Yes I know the historical facts.
The December 23rd, 1920 Act created the legal conditions for the partition of Ireland.
Things have changed since 1920.
Even some protestants are looking differently at things since NI was “separated” from the rest of UK by a customs border in the Irish Sea on 01. Jan 2021.
Only a couple of weeks later and the problems with an “internal boarder” in the UK are becoming evident:
The alternative solution, a “hard border” between NI and the Irish Republic would probably break the Good Friday Agreement and lead to renewed conflict in NI.
Who cares? There is still free trade, democracy, etc. Brits can still work in Europe and Europeans can work in United Kingdom. Only extra paper work to pass the borders, etc. Actually UK is like old Norway. Not part of EU. Reason is that British and Norwegian fish must swim in their own waters. And Norwegians must apply for permits to work in EU. Serves them right. They should stay home and fish.
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You are ill informed.
Too early in the day to be drunk, so what is your excuse??
FYI; Norway is member of EEA and the Schengen Agreement. (Look it up)
I wonder how many of the commenters here actually leave in the UK… or have seen “The Great Hack”.
I am not drunk. Norway is simply not part of the European Union. Has never been.
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I haven’t but may look it up.
Things are falling into place:
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First two weeks has been a wakeup call for many:
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A rough patch is to be expected for awhile. But don’t worry, it will all work out over time.
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Is the dream of a “Singapore on the Themes” coming to frustration?_
Some part of Brexit may have to wait for a while:
British Ports Association welcomes significant Brexit borders extension | Hellenic Shipping News Worldwide.