Are engineers limited to ship size/tonnages?

I cannot see any reason why that would be the case. @jdcavo

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I thought the same but somewhere JD replied in a post why.

Seems to me it kids of negates the Unlimited thing…

By whom?

Is someone saying 46 CFR § 11.553 - Chief engineer (OSV) doesn’t mean anything?

Why would you think that?

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The only thing I can think of is the requirement to hold a DP certification for basic maintenance for engineers and electro.Tech officers. There is a 4 day course in Perth, Australia for $4200. You do get lunch.:roll_eyes:

Because the requirements for OSV certification are far less than those for an unlimited chief.

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How does that translate to anyone saying “OSV Chief engineer doesn’t mean anything”?

German or not all of them seem to be “ limited” :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

It doesn’t and never did. Basic reading skills show nearly anyone that the subject of the statement was 46 CFR § 11.553 which after the dash explained to nearly everyone that it was the regulation governing requirements to obtain certification as an OSV chief.

Harvey Shows. HOS HR guy. HOS has a template for pay. The more Documents/Certs you have the more the Day Rate. He said that if I had the CE OSV it would be 50.00 more per day. (Didn’t hire on as CE, said I had to get signed off…) I told him the Unlimited Motors CE license was a bigger license than the CE OSV and that it allowed me to sail as CE on their vessels. He said it did not. I contacted the USCG and they said he was correct.

Then why did you say it did?

And yet you still haven’t explained how that’s relevant to this conversation.

What “USCG” did you contact and did you do it by email?

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REC in Portland. This was 15 or more years ago. It was discussed a while ago on here and JD chimed in and explained why.

I’d like to see that explanation if you can find it as I have never heard of a CE UL have a restriction except as to mode of propulsion.

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I’ll look. We’re changing a Plunger/Barrel on our M/E right now.

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A lot has changed in 15 years, much driven by STCW 2010, which included changes for OSV qualification requirements. OSV is a Limitation on an Engineering Officer endorsement. Holding a Chief Engineer (OSV) limits you to service on an OSV. It is a limitation that can be removed however, by meeting all of the requirements for a Chief Engineer without limitation (commonly referred to as Unlimited).

As written in NVIC 02-17

To remove the limitation to OSVs, mariners must meet all requirements for an endorsement as Chief Engineer without a limitation to OSVs in 46 CFR 11.325. This will require the mariner to complete the tasks in NVIC 15-14 that are not included or are identified as specific to OSVs in Enclosure (2) of this NVIC.

The assessments which need to be signed off to get your OSV endorsement are only specific in the sense that if you want to remove the OSV limitation you have to re-do those same assessments on a non-OSV. They are otherwise identically worded in NVIC 2-17 Enclosure 2 to the non-limited assessments in NVIC 15-14 Enclosure 2.

There’s not some secret specialness to OSVs for Engineers. (Mates are weird, so they may be a different story, but that’s true for many things.)

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