AMO Pension

What’s your question, Jon?

Who is Hernia? Expose your true identity like you illegally exposed mine.

Everyone knows you have to have a set of BALLS to have a Hernia. So do you…let us know who you are or contact the administrator of this web site and get your name changed.

If this is Paul Doell who made total disbursements of $207,043.00 reported on the 2010 LM-2 you should not be commenting during business hours like you did yesterday at 4:09 PM, Aug. 9th at 9:23 AM, and on the 10th at 10:12 AM… or is this what WE are paying you for?

Jon

Hearnia is Paul Doell. He is the editor of Currents and the AMO Rag. A professional writer and a fine propagandist too. His full time job is to lie, and he is as good a liar as Jack Hearn is a leader.

So yeah, Jon, expect to see him spewing his lies during working hours. It’s what Bethel pays him your money to do.

Anything printed that you see coming from the AMO, like remarks attributed to Behtel…that’s Paul Doebell’s work. That teriffic AMO letter from a couple years ago - you know, the one saying the pension is in top shape? Paul Doell at the top of his lying game.

Since you have been reading the LM-2, Jon, how do you like the new name they have given the union:
AMO/SIU? Won’t be long before Mike Sacco moves into his new winter headquarters down there in Dania, ya know?

Who is Hernia? Expose your true identity like you illegally exposed mine.

Everyone knows you have to have a set of BALLS to have a Hernia. So do you…let us know who you are or contact the administrator of this web site and get your name changed.

If this is Paul Doell who made total disbursements of $207,043.00 reported on the 2010 LM-2 you should not be commenting during business hours like you did yesterday at 4:09 PM, Aug. 9th at 9:23 AM, and on the 10th at 10:12 AM… or is this what WE are paying you for?

Jon[/QUOTE]

“Palmer” – this is already off to a bad start. Neither I nor anyone on this bulletin board knows who you are, if you are one of the handful of people with multiple anonymous screen names fueling this exercise in politically-motivated willful ignorance, a shill for MEBA or a company hostile to AMO, such as Interlake, or even a candidate for elective office in AMO. Although your messages are obvious attempts to fool people into believing this union and this union election are about things that no longer have any relevance to AMO, I will pretend you are someone with a legitimate interest in the union and its future and provide some facts that are sorely lacking in this anonymous Internet free-for-all.

As to your false (and actionable) charge that officials and employees of the union’s administration are “racketeers,” I will remind you the Department of Labor and the Department of Justice investigated the union and the AMO Plans for a period in excess of six years. Their thorough and comprehensive search included all AMO officials and any person or item of potential interest to their investigation, including employees. Those found to have done wrong were indicted, either established plea bargains to avoid jail time or stood trial in federal court, and were convicted.

That did not satisfy AMO member Jack Hearn or his Washington, DC, law firm. They filed a civil lawsuit against the union and several officials. After an exhaustive discovery process involving the union and the AMO Plans, legal proceedings and a court trial (a process that spanned two years), Mr. Hearn’s lawsuit and every charge he leveled against the union and its officials were dismissed by the court. The union and its officials were found to have done no wrong. Mr. Hearn and his lawyer’s appeal of the court’s dismissal was also rejected by the justice system.

If you think the union is not run by “men of integrity” or has not sufficiently invested in integrity, consider the union’s ethics and conduct training, compliance committee, anonymous and secure reporting line for employees and officials, new and comprehensive policies regarding conduct and expenses, and drug testing program – all developed, enacted and enforced under Tom Bethel’s leadership of AMO. If you do not think these things represent a sufficient investment in integrity, then please be satisfied with the hundreds of thousands of dollars in court costs and legal fees the union incurred as a result of Mr. Hearn’s civil lawsuit, which represented a second complete (and pointless) investigation of the union, its officials and its shoreside staff.

Mr. Hearn has been nothing if not consistent in saying he will rapidly turn the union’s day-to-day operations over to consultants – legal, lobbying, etc. He is apparently more comfortable drawing the DOL into the AMO election process and having a DOL investigator supervise every AMO election. Why then can’t Mr. Hearn, or anonymous shills such as yourself, accept that the DOL, Department of Justice, and his own Washington, DC, law firm did their jobs thoroughly and completely in investigating AMO, prosecuting the guilty, and then conducting a civil lawsuit?

One possible answer: because the truth and the facts do not help satisfy either your political agenda or personal aspirations.

Furthermore, the Department of Labor just completed an I-CAP audit of AMO. This audit is a thorough review of records, expenditures, staff and operational practices. All U.S. unions are subject to this DOL program. I believe the audit of AMO lasted more than one year. I do know the DOL auditors told AMO officials and senior staff they were impressed with AMO and its operational practices following the audit. The DOL’s recommendations boiled down to a series of minor record keeping changes.

I am tired of writing about this, but if you don’t think you’ve read enough, I’ll refer you to the union’s Web site: www.amo-union.org, and the union’s news site, AMO Currents: www.amo-union.net. There, AMO publishes raw court documents, letters and reports regarding such matters. Good, bad or indifferent, the information is made available to the union’s membership in a convenient format. If you don’t see what you’re looking for, both sites are equipped with search functions to retrieve documents from the sites’ respective database archives. Also posted on the union’s Web site every year is the union’s LM-2 filing with the DOL. All of this began when Tom Bethel became president of AMO and continues under his direction. I challenge you to name a union that is more open and transparent to its membership, and to then back up your claim.

On the topic of LM-2s, you seem to be trying to make this election about Paul Doell and his salary. If you want to be accurate with your attempts at misdirection next time, you can first check the LM-2 on the union’s Web site. But here are a few facts to consider, since you either haven’t, or have decided it’s politically convenient to ignore them:

  1. The union’s election has nothing to do with the salary of Paul Doell
  2. It costs the union far less to employ Paul Doell than it would to hire a “lobbying shop” as an outside consulting firm
  3. The union (and the U.S. merchant marine) benefit tremendously from the extensive experience, expertise, relationships, intimate knowledge of maritime policy and Congressional access Paul Doell brings to the job – far more in all departments than any group of lobbying consultants could or would provide to AMO

In other words, turning AMO’s legislative department over to a “lobbying shop” in Washington, DC, would cost the union geometrically more than it costs AMO to employ Paul, and the union would in return get half or less bang for the buck out of the third-party consultants. I can say the same about the other individuals in AMO’s productive, talented and hard-working shoreside staff, all of whom understand the best interests of the membership come first, and are experienced and knowledgeable enough in their conduct of the union’s day-to-day operations to put those best interests first in doing their jobs, myself included.

If you or any of the other anonymous inhabitants on this bulletin board want to take a pot shot at me, I’ll make it easy: my total pay for one year was $108,079, as documented in the most recent LM-2. My expenses for one year were $15,805.

If you think that’s a lot, I can fairly say it would take at least two FTEs or a team of “consultants” and a much more money from the union to replace the multiple skill sets, expertise and productivity I bring to my job, and I am by no means an exception among AMO employees.

Since you seem to like rolling expenses into total compensation for dramatic effect, I will remind you expenses are not compensation. They pay for business travel, software, office equipment and other expenses we would not otherwise have were it not for the work we do. Each item or expenditure is documented with a receipt and reviewed by the accounting staff. Do you consider being reimbursed for the cost a flight and a meal or two when you travel to join a ship part of your paycheck?

The greater point about expenses is this: AMO, under the leadership of Tom Bethel, utilizes the most modern, flexible, efficient and productive operating model of any labor union of which I am aware, and more so than most businesses and corporations. AMO has common office space and conference rooms at all of its major office locations, as well as stationary support staff. Senior staff use laptops and cell phones and go wherever they are needed whenever they are needed. AMO’s voice-over-IP phone network connects all home offices to cell phones and main office switch boards with a simple Ethernet jack, and union housing (owned outright for decades) provides lodging for traveling employees and officials at a minimal expense.

AMO does not pay the ridiculous amount of overhead required to maintain numerous hiring halls and office suites all over the country, as do the other officers’ unions. AMO uses a virtual hiring hall employing today’s technology operating under fair and straightforward shipping rules. AMO’s model saves the membership money and provides exceptional service and efficiency. Individual travel expenses are nothing compared with the cost of maintaining hiring halls all over the place.

AMO has been through a lot of turmoil in recent years and yet remains on the cutting edge of establishing openings to good jobs for its members in international fleets and in the U.S.-flag industry. AMO remains the largest and strongest union of U.S. merchant marine officers and the only U.S. officers’ union with a constantly expanding job base. AMO’s experienced, sharp, hard working, aggressive, talented and mobile officials and senior staff make this possible for the union’s membership.

As to your ridiculous implied assertions about the AMO Pension Plan and the rehabilitation plan that has been adopted and is moving forward: so much reliable, thorough and accurate information has been published by the plan and the union, so many questions answered in person, on the phone or via e-mail, I won’t bother trying to repeat it all here. Visit the AMO Plans Web site at www.amoplans.com, the union’s Web site at www.amo-union.org or the union’s news site at www.amo-union.net and search for the word “pension.” You will find accurate information that dumps the willful ignorance espoused by your messages on its head. If you don’t find exactly what you’re looking for, you will find contact information for all AMO Plans and all AMO officials. Give them a call or send them an e-mail. If you’re an AMO member or applicant, you’ll get a real answer.

I will say this: the trustees of the AMO Pension Plan spent a year researching solutions, consulting with actuaries, financial experts and legal counsel in developing the rehabilitation plan that is now in place. They petitioned the IRS to allow the Pension Plan to maintain the return-to-work option as it was. The IRS denied the request. The trustees persisted in their efforts and developed a way to keep the 20-and-out option without violating the directives of the IRS. In short, they developed a rehabilitation plan that was the best possible for its participants while remaining within the bounds of the IRS decision, the ERISA governing multi-employer pension plans, and the onerous requirements of the Pension Protection Act.

If you think chewing the fat about the Pension Plan is a productive political agenda, the fat has been chewed – hundreds of ship visits, area meetings, membership meetings, phone calls and e-mails, as well as extensive consultation with professionals. If you think the establishment of the new and separate Defined Contribution Plan was skewed to favor lump-sum recipients as part of some conspiracy, it is too bad you didn’t attend a membership meeting or area meeting or ship visit, in all of which the director of the AMO Plans explained that creating a new plan that failed to treat all participants equally would result in a lawsuit, which would cost the AMO Plans more money needlessly and result in the AMO Plans being required to alter the Defined Contribution Plan to treat its participants equally, regardless of their participation in the separate Defined Benefit Plan. That is exactly what the new and separate DC plan as established by the trustees does.

If you think I’m trying to say that it’s all great and everyone should be happy, I’m not. It sucks that the investment markets took a nose dive for the history books at the same time the Pension Protection Act went into effect and resulted in a “run on the bank” by participants who were eligible for lump-sum pensions prior to the plan being declared critical by the actuaries. If you think AMO’s institutional investment was the only one decimated by the freeze of the credit market and collapse of the investment and securities markets, your memory is very selective.

What I am saying is the same thing I believe Mr. Hearn’s consultants would say after an exhaustive study of “the AMO pension issue” – the plan’s trustees developed the best solution for the membership that was possible under the law and within the financial constraints faced by the Pension Plan. They exercised their fiduciary responsibilities. They also established a DC Plan that will eliminate the possibility of the future collapse of the AMO membership’s largest institutional investment while providing retirement benefits to all participants on equal terms.

The status of the Pension Plan is something that has and will affect us all, seagoing members and shoreside staff, some more than others and some worse than others. If you think the AMO administration should have seen it coming or the trustees could have prevented the effects the global financial collapse and the Pension Protection Act have had on the AMO Pension Plan, I think you are mistaken. Very few did in this country, and even fewer in the realm of institutional investments.

That does not change the fact that everyone involved has and continues to work as hard and as smart as they possibly can to address the problem. As conditions change, if terms can be improved, I am confident they will be. I am proud to work for AMO because I know I work for and with a team of professionals qualified and dedicated to keeping AMO on the cutting edge of progress in providing the best jobs, options and opportunities for its membership.

A bulletin board thread such as this, particularly messages such as yours “Palmer,” are discouraging and frustrating, if for no other reason than the willful ignorance they display. The information has been made available to anyone with any interest in learning the facts, dealing in the real world, and doing the best they can to advance themselves, provide for their families and support their brothers and sisters in AMO.

This absurdly long message is really nothing more than a recitation of facts and observations with a few editorial comments. If you think a recitation of facts is a personal or political attack on anyone, I would say the truth is not on your side. Incidentally, Tom Bethel knows at least two people who can spell.

Matt Burke
AMO employee
Written on and posted from my own computer on my own time

Mainiac, above: "Expose your true identity like you illegally exposed mine."
Palmer, above: "Expose your true identity like you illegally exposed mine."
Mainiac and Palmer: The name is “Hearnia,” with the “a”

Its refreshing to see someone (Matt Burke) take time to write a coherent post and actually sign their name to it.

In contrast, there is a lot of false information on this thread (‘The Pension Plan is 30% funded’; ‘the 401-k Plan is under the microscope’, etc.). Its a problem with anonymous message boards. Someone can post such things and not need any facts to back up their claims.

I strongly suspect that some of the posts here are from the same person using different screen names. This would not be unprecedented. In 2003, a disgruntled & former AMO official was caught doing exactly that, which resulted in an entire message board being shut down. The board remains closed to this day: http://www.boatnerd.com/industry/

My guess would be that all of a sudden this thread has come under intense observation by people close to the ychangenow ranks.

I encourage this, it is a thread to foster ideas on how to best bring the union forward. Matt Burke has posted how he views things and felt it important to place his name at the bottom of his post, good for him but that is his choice. Do not discard posts where a person does not decide to place their name at the bottom as some here would like readers to do. Read the information, cross check it with what facts you can find on both teams websites and on the union website then use the information to make a voting decision when the ballots arrive. This is an anonymous message board and there will be some posts that look suspect with misinformed information but then again there are good ideas with facts backing them up being put forward on this thread too. Instead of endlessly trying to discredit and minimize it effects as multiple updates on the ychangenow site have attempted (and now with a string of entries on the thread itself) use it to answer peoples questions and issues with what is currently being sold to the rank and file.

As for suspecting people using multiple screen names, I’m sure the website administer can monitor the thread and zap out people doing so. As for a single computer being used mentioned in the link above, I can think of many ships that only have one access point to the internet…

I do not see a forum on any of the election websites guys so this remains the point where people can express ideas freely…and namelessly too if they feel so.

What’s your question. Jon?

Mariner173

Well spoken so how do you account for Tom Bethel (Paul Doell) calling me out on ychangenow and discrediting this web site? He gave out my name my anonymous name mainiac, and made me into a public figure which I never asked for. I know it is against the law I just haven’t decided how to proceed. This is the same shit they pulled in the last election and that is why the DOL decided to step in. They have abolutely no respect for the sea going membership and feel as though they can proceed as they did in the past.

What’s your question, Jon?

Matt Burke who are you and what do you do for our Union? I figure I have the right to call anyone out since our “union” president illegally did it to me. Jon Sprague

Matt

I’m not going to read your ridiculous screed. As an AMO employee you have no business involving yourself in the politics of the organization. That is for the professionals whose toil supports you and all AMO non-sailing employees. People with the right to vote.

I’ve experienced typhoons at sea Matt, and a little puff like you calling my words “actionable” doesn’t shake me up. But don’t worry. Jack is too kind a person to lop off your good thing when he wins.

Anyone who inflated their AMO expense account to deliberately kick that money back to Michael McKay has colluded with a racketeer. They could have all gone down under RICO, but were given immunity deals to cut to the chase. Check the McKay trial transcripts for the Department of Justice version of the facts, Matt.

To Tom Bethel
Tom you lied to us when you stood infront of the membership and told us that" the members that took there buy out would not be eligible for a second pension" [B]YOU ALREADY KNEW THEY WOULD GET IT. JOE G. KNEW IT IN NOVEMBER. I wish I had saved that email.[/B]

Tom Did the board even concider reseting the buy out members days to zero when you found out that it would be illegal to keep you(I mean them) from collecting a second pension? If so expain to use why you opted NOT to use this option.

[B]Tom here is your chance to use this forum for something other than lashing out at members [/B]

[B]After a long spell of silence the AMC website has posted the latest:[/B]

"AMC Platform Position: Executive Board Pay and Privilege
Executive pay and privilege will be reduced; Benefits going to the sailing membership first
We pledge to reduce AMO Executive Board salaries to bring the AMO treasury one million dollars during our administration. Money saved from union operating costs will work directly for your benefit.
The first goal listed on the AMC 2010 platform is to reduce executive pay and privilege to provide benefits to the membership first. We compared the 2006 LM-2 reports to the 2010 reports filed with the DOL. In 2006, AMO membership totaled 3,921 but as of March, 2010, the membership decreased by 12.6% to 3,425 members. Since March, approximately 200 more members have quit. Far fewer members are left to pay for tremendous increases in operating costs. Line 53 of the LM-2 report, General Overhead, has risen from $4,707,205 dollars in 2006 to $8,730,455 dollars in 2010, [U]an increase of over 85% and amounting to over 4 million dollars![/U]
The AMO President’s gross salary disbursement has grown from $267,290 in 2006 to $333,458. The same disbursement for former editor of the union newspaper, new to the position of Legislative Director, has risen from $119,089 in 2006 to $190,613 in 2010.
Seagoing members have endured meager or zero net wage increases and a total loss of pension fund benefits during 2010. Our pension fund is bleeding. Executive salary increases defy belief. Union overhead costs have nearly doubled in just four years.

This abuse of authority will end when you elect Jack Hearn and the AMC Slate. The 2010 AMC Candidates will reduce the total gross salary disbursements to the National Executive Board saving at least $250,000 annually. If elected we will reduce annual salaries as follows:
[ul]
[li]National President, reduced to $250,000[/li][li]Secretary Treasurer, reduced to $182,000[/li][li]Five Vice President’s average salaries, reduced to an average of $150,000 (each)[/li][/ul]Additionally, the AMC Candidates will eliminate the current 401-K matching plan for [U]all[/U] Executive Board members. This benefit is listed at a cost of $289,946 dollars on the 2010 LM-2. As an incentive to increase your wages, Executive Board members will gain no higher than the lowest wage increase across the board of the seagoing membership. To put it simply, if seagoing members don’t get a raise, no one on the Executive Board gets a raise either.
We, the AMC candidates, also pledge to reduce executive privilege by frugal elimination of costly meetings that squandered more than $160,000.00 for lavish hotels such as the Westin in Boston, Sofitel in Philadelphia, and the DonCeSar Beach Resort in St. Petersburg, Florida. The next administration will meet at the new headquarters building in Dania, already a multi-million dollar burden to the membership. Charter air line flights such as the $67,436 paid for the “2009 Winter tour” will be eliminated. [U]All[/U] Executive Board members will only be entitled to the same economy flight allowance as the membership.
At a time when the industry and the nation has tightened its belt, it is time the union follows suit and does more for the seagoing members. The AMC candidates want the privilege of working for you and will make every dollar work for you as well.
We, the candidates listed below, will be a membership driven union government that provides for the [U]seagoing members first[/U]. We ask for your help and your vote[B]. [/B]
Thank you and best fraternal regards,

As Candidates for the position of:
[ul]
[li][B]National President: Jack Hearn [/B][/li][li][B]National Secretary Treasurer: Jim Schwartz[/B][/li][li][B]National Executive Vice President: Matt Hight[/B][/li][li][B]National Vice President, Deep Sea: Mike Wachter[/B][/li][li][B]National Vice President, Inland: Tim Reid[/B][/li][li][B]National Vice President, Government: Rich Horne[/B][/li][li][B]National Vice President, Great Lakes: John Clemons"[/B][/li][/ul]Interesting proposition considering we are in the depths of a severe and persistent economic recession as stated time and time again on the ychangenow site. Here is a quote from the ychangenow sites blurb named “The Politics of Pensions” [B]:[/B]

“As everyone in our union knows all too well, the defined benefit AMO Pension Plan was not immune to a nationwide crisis driven by severe and persistent economic recession, the collapse of investment markets in 2008 and the extreme requirements of the Pension Protection Act of 2006 – which, among other things, effectively doubled the cost of sustaining defined benefit retirement plans.”

I guess it took a doubling of costs to run our union at the same time as per the LM-2s ([B]just the facts ma’am[/B]) Just wished I could have got even a tenth of those increases that were awarded to our reps while the pension went down in flames. Come to think of it my wages seem to have been frozen in place the past couple of years…

Can’t wait to see the negative spew this AMC position will bring about from the opposition!

Good on the AMC to put right out there that they plan to cut union official salaries. The real sacrilege isn’t the sheer amount of money they’re making–it’s the amount of money they’re making as compared to comparable officials from MEBA and MMP, and (more to the point) the amount they’re making compared to the seafaring membership. You know, the seafaring membership, the ones that make all this possible for them. Tommy’s salary has gone up over 24% over the last four years. What contract in this union has shown comparable growth? Haven’t heard a whole lot on this subject from Tommy’s gang. So, I suggest an improvement to cutting union official salaries–peg them to the contracts in some form. I’d say peg them to the lowest contract in the union, but that could be a bit much. Even pegging them to the median contract would be an improvement–and there would be another incentive to get those wages up!

As far as the DC plan goes, it turns out the Tommy gang is correct in that those members who got buyouts under the old plan cannot be excluded from the new plan. Okay, fine. But why do their contributions have to be that high? One thing in particular jumps out from the tables–age outweighs experience in the contribution percentages. You’re much better joining at 45 than 22. As an example, a 32-year-old 2nd mate with 10 years in the union gets a lower contribution than a 50-year-old 3rd with 4 years. Now, I’m not dogging hawsepipers in any way, but who is more valuable, a kid who joins up at 22 and who may very well give 30+ years of service, or someone who joins up close to 50 and may not get past 15 years of service? Why is age even a factor in these tables at all? Because it (disproportionately) favors the union officials, and along the way happens to benefit a few others. The only factors that should be in the table are years of service and benefit base.

I’ve seen posted in this forum that the tables should be essentially flipped around and the higher contributions should be given to the younger members. The problem with this is, it disproportionately favors those who join to make a quick buck and move on to something else. There should still be an incentive to stick it out a little longer. So, here’s my idea–modify the contribution tables to remove age as a factor entirely. Then, set the contribution percentages on a sort of modified bell curve. Those just joining would still be on the low end, while the percentages would level off at the high end, or even drop somewhat at the extreme high end (though not to the level of newbies). I think this would accomplish the objectives at hand–favoring those members who have (or will) stick it out over the long haul; making it possible for members to get out at a reasonable age instead of having to stick it out until 65; and taking back a little from those that “got theirs”. There’s probably some pitfalls with this idea, but hey, it’s an idea instead of a big middle finger in all our faces.

Oh, and Tom Bethel/Paul Doebbels–get a sack and identify yourselves if you’re going to be posting your propaganda on this forum, especially on paid time. Better still, stay the hell away and let the members hash this out amongst ourselves without your BS muddying up the waters.

Latest from the AMC, can’t wait to hear the ychangenow spin on this one. Please send to all your fellow AMO brothers and sisters who may not be checking the AMC website and this one thanks, Jon.
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AMC Platform Position: Executive Board Pay and Privilege

Executive pay and privilege will be reduced; Benefits going to the sailing membership first.

We pledge to reduce AMO Executive Board salaries to bring the AMO treasury one million dollars during our administration. Money saved from union operating costs will work directly for your benefit.

The first goal listed on the AMC 2010 platform is to reduce executive pay and privilege to provide benefits to the membership first. We compared the 2006 LM-2 reports to the 2010 reports filed with the DOL. In 2006, AMO membership totaled 3,921 but as of March, 2010, the membership decreased by 12.6% to 3,425 members. Since March, approximately 200 more members have quit. Far fewer members are left to pay for tremendous increases in operating costs. Line 53 of the LM-2 report, General Overhead, has risen from $4,707,205 dollars in 2006 to $8,730,455 dollars in 2010, an increase of over 85% and amounting to over 4 million dollars!

The AMO President’s gross salary disbursement has grown from $267,290 in 2006 to $333,458. The same disbursement for former editor of the union newspaper, new to the position of Legislative Director, has risen from $119,089 in 2006 to $190,613 in 2010.

Seagoing members have endured meager or zero net wage increases and a total loss of pension fund benefits during 2010. Our pension fund is bleeding. Executive salary increases defy belief. Union overhead costs have nearly doubled in just four years.

This abuse of authority will end when you elect Jack Hearn and the AMC Slate. The 2010 AMC Candidates will reduce the total gross salary disbursements to the National Executive Board saving at least $250,000 annually. If elected we will reduce annual salaries as follows:

• National President, reduced to $250,000

• Secretary Treasurer, reduced to $180,00

• Five Vice President’s average salaries, reduced to an average of $150,000 (each)

Additionally, the AMC Candidates will eliminate the current 401-K matching plan for all Executive Board members. This benefit is listed at a cost of $289,946 dollars on the 2010 LM-2. As an incentive to increase your wages, Executive Board members will gain no higher than the lowest wage increase across the board of the seagoing membership. To put it simply, if seagoing members don’t get a raise, no one on the Executive Board gets a raise either.

We, the AMC candidates, also pledge to reduce executive privilege by frugal elimination of costly meetings that squandered more than $160,000.00 for lavish hotels such as the Westin in Boston, Sofitel in Philadelphia, and the DonCeSar Beach Resort in St. Petersburg, Florida. The next administration will meet at the new headquarters building in Dania, already a multi-million dollar burden to the membership. Charter air line flights such as the $67,436 paid for the “2009 Winter tour” will be eliminated. All Executive Board members will only be entitled to the same economy flight allowance as the membership.

At a time when the industry and the nation has tightened its belt, it is time the union follows suit and does more for the seagoing members. The AMC candidates want the privilege of working for you and will make every dollar work for you as well.

We, the candidates listed below, will be a membership driven union government that provides for the seagoing members first. We ask for your help and your vote.
Thank you and best fraternal regards,

As Candidates for the position of:

• National President: Jack Hearn

• National Secretary Treasurer: Jim Schwartz

• National Executive Vice President: Matt Hight

• National Vice President, Deep Sea: Mike Wachter

• National Vice President, Inland: Tim Reid

• National Vice President, Government: Rich Horne

• National Vice President, Great Lakes: John Clemons

Website: www.youramc.org Email: committee@youramc.org

“AMC Campaign information may not be reprinted or distributed through union or employer equipment or materials in compliance with LMRDA Sec. 401-(g).”

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Jon, go to the Bethel site at ychangenow.com and read Jack’s desperate detour, part two. Seems you outed yourself as “Mainiac” right here on this thread, June 24. Hard to say who is more confused, you or jack Hearn.

Okay Jon, I’ll save you the trouble. Here it is.

Jack’s desperate detour (II)

On August 10, Jack Hearn presented a formal complaint charging me, “incumbent officers of the AMO administration” and AMO National Executive Board Member Charles Murdock (this is the correct spelling of the name, Jack) with “illegal actions,” “misconduct” and “abuse of authority and power.” The 2-count complaint was filed with the national executive board of AMO and with the U.S. Department of Labor.

I addressed Jack’s specific allegations in Count 1 — in which Jack charged me with “tampering with election nomination letters” — in detail in a separate post on this Web site [Jack’s desperate detour (I)]. This commentary focuses on Count 2, in which Jack alleged “violation of rights of union members … to assemble without interference of union officials and to exercise their right to the freedom of speech.”

Count 2 centered significantly on what Jack says occurred at a meeting Jack and two of his AMO Membership Committee (AMC) running mates hosted for AMO members in Newport News on July 27. A message posted on an anonymous Internet forum thread, an email to this campaign Web site and two statements on this site were also at issue.

But many of the developments Jack referred to in the complaint actually occurred during or followed an earlier meeting in Newport News — Jack apparently did not know which meeting was which, or who said what where.

Jack began Count 2 of the complaint by reporting that “a group of AMO union members” had assembled “at a public restaurant in Newport News” on July 27 for Jack’s “pre-arranged and reserved meeting to discuss election issues.” Jack added: “This meeting was open to AMO members interested in these issues.”

Jack then noted that Charles Murdock — who Jack said had “somehow” been notified of the meeting — arrived at the restaurant and asserted his right as an AMO member to participate in the meeting. Jack said he had “kindly” asked Murdock to leave because the meeting was political in nature, because Murdock is our candidate for inland waters vice president and because of Murdock’s “status as a union official.”

There is no real mystery to how Charles Murdock learned of the July 27 meeting in Newport News. Ours is a small world, and news travels quickly — almost as quickly as gossip and rumor.

More importantly, and by Jack’s own admission, the meeting was held in “a public restaurant,” open to anyone and everyone. Charles had every right to be in the restaurant, and Jack and his co-hosts — Chris Horn (this is the correct spelling of the name, Jack) and Jim Schwartz — had no right to ask Murdock to leave, “kindly” or not. By Jack’s own admission, the July 27 meeting was “open to AMO members interested in these issues” — and this alone certainly qualified Charles Murdock to participate.

While U.S. labor law does indeed guarantee members of all unions the right to “assemble without interference of union officials” and guarantees “their right to freedom of speech,” common sense dictates that these assemblies be held on private property to minimize the risk of public intrusion: in someone’s home, in what are often described as “private” clubs or lodges, by conference call or videoconference or in any other venue where there is little opportunity for gate-crashers — you should not assemble to talk union politics in “a public restaurant” at the dinner hour and not expect your opposition to observe the meeting without engaging in any peaceful and legal conduct during such a meeting.

“The additional concern openly discussed was that Mr. Murdock would use information from the meeting to further intimidate candidates and AMO members including, by example, the previous lawsuit filed against ‘AMC’ member-candidates by members of the AMO executive board in the 2008 election,” Jack said.

By many accounts, there was no “information from the meeting” on July 27— the handful of AMO members who attended in the hope of hearing something substantial about union policy and benefits from Jack and the AMC went home or back to their vessels disappointed.

And I have no idea what Hearn meant in reference to “the previous lawsuit filed against ‘AMC’ member-candidates by members of the AMO executive board in the 2008 election.” Neither I nor anyone working with me in the AMO administration has ever sued Jack and the AMC, and there certainly was no lawsuit filed from either side during the 2008 election — which was supervised by the U.S. Department of Labor.

The only lawsuit involving Jack and the AMC and the AMO executive board was the failed complaint Jack and the AMC filed in federal court against me, other individuals and AMO as a union in February 2007 — a case that cost our union more than $700,000 in legal fees.

“Mr. Murdock refused to leave and in fact took a seat at the meeting, interjected comments, and continuously typed unknown information into a cellular device,” Jack continued.

Charles “refused to leave” because he had the right to be there, and he indeed “interjected comments,” as we note elsewhere on this site.

As for Charles typing “unknown information into a cellular device,” we can only remind Jack that this is the worldwide techno-trend — if Jack Hearn does not see someone typing “unknown information into a cellular device” everywhere he goes, he should get out and around more often.

During the informational AMO membership area meetings my administration hosted recently in East, West and Gulf Coast ports, Blackberries were everywhere. But we did not make an issue of it, and we did not speculate about the possible content or possible recipients of the text messages.

At different points in these meetings, Schwartz and AMC Chairman Bruce Keller left the meeting rooms openly and often to use their cell phones, and they could very well have been “texting” while in the room. It is a safe assumption that several of the AMO members at Jack’s meeting in Newport News — including Jack, Jim and Chris — found time and opportunity to text.

“Mr. Murdock took the names of persons in attendance as evidenced by the fact that AMO member Jon Sprague was identified in ‘Why Change Now’ campaign material titled, ‘What’s your question, Jon?’ and posted on the Internet within hours of the meeting and on the following day, July 28, 2010,” Jack said.

The problem for Jack Hearn is that the meeting referred to in “What’s your question, Jon?” was NOT Jack’s meeting in Newport News on July 27. It was the annual AMO membership area meeting my administration hosted in Newport News more than two months earlier on May 26. Jack Hearn did not attend this meeting, so he has no first-hand knowledge of what had occurred between Jon Sprague and me that evening.

“What’s your question, Jon?” was posted here in response to signed email Jon Sprague sent to this site on July 27, the day of the meeting Jack hosted in Newport News. In the email, Jon called me “gutless” and challenged me to answer questions.

But Jon by then had not asked me any questions at all since the area meeting on May 26, when I addressed every concern and answered every question Sprague raised to me. I knew that Jon — who is not a candidate in this election — was telling everyone he knows in our union that I do not answer questions, so I responded to the email in a very public way so that all AMO members could know both sides.

“The campaign material titled ‘What’s your question, Jon?’ is also an Internet attack directed at the meeting and, in particular, the attendance of union member Jon Sprague,” Jack continued, apparently unaware that the meeting in question was held on May 26, not July 27.

Again, Jack was unable to distinguish between the meeting in Newport News on July 27 and the meeting in Newport News on May 26. And Jack was plainly unaware of my commentary’s relevant line — “In one recent post (on an Internet forum thread), Jon, using the screen name “Mainiac” … distorted an exchange he and I had had the night before during the informational AMO membership meeting in Newport News.” This was the article’s only reference to any meeting in Newport News.

Jack would not trust me on this, but I would never “attack” a meeting I had chaired.

“Mr. Sprague was used as an example and in an effort to intimidate other union members from their Constitutional right and freedom to attend such meetings and from exercising their freedom of speech at these meetings and in independent Internet forums,” Jack said.

This was the third time that Jack confused what occurred or did not occur during a meeting in Newport News on May 26 with what occurred or did not occur during a meeting in Newport News on July 27. For things to have happened the way Jack wants you to believe they happened, I would have had to have been at Jack’s meeting on July 27, when I was nowhere near Newport News.

“Members attending this meeting or other meetings may be identified by union officials and/or incumbent candidates as supportive of political opponents and also, they may be publicly attacked in campaign material as evidenced by the facts listed herein,” Jack went on, unaware that he was mixing one meeting up with another for the fourth time.

Now bogged down by his own carelessness, Jack plodded on.

“On July 28, 2010 the incumbent Web site ‘Why Change Now’ published a personal attack upon AMO union brother Jon Sprague,” Hearn wrote. “The article identified Mr. Sprague from (1) his email response to unsolicited email from ‘Why Change Now,’ (2) material published on an independent Internet forum called ‘gCaptain’ which is used by professional mariners to share information and additionally, (3) Jon Sprague’s attendance at the meeting in Newport News, Virginia on the evening prior.

“Mr. Sprague used a pseudonym in his posts on gCaptain forum to protect his personal identity,” Jack continued. “Somehow, Mr. Bethel has identified Mr. Sprague with this pseudonym and used this supposition to additionally attack Mr. Sprague.”

The truth here is that Jon Sprague gave his screen name secret away in a gCaptain post on June 24 — more than a month before the meeting Jack and the AMC hosted in Newport News, the meeting at the heart of Jack’s Count 2. This was the fifth time Jack was unable to distinguish between meetings.

“At a recent informational meeting in Hampton VA (Newport News), I asked Bethel why can’t we have a fair election and let all those running use the union newspaper to put their opinions out,” Jon wrote June 24 on gCaptain. “He looked at me and said ‘Fuck NO, that is MY newspaper!”

The exchange between Jon Sprague and me did not go the way Jon described it, but that is beside the point. I knew when Jon rose to speak in Newport News on May 26 that this was Jon Sprague, and our ensuing exchange was not one that either of us would forget easily or quickly. When I read the gCaptain post by “Mainiac” on June 24, I knew from the subject matter that this, too, was Jon Sprague, the only AMO member to ask that specific question during the area meeting circuit — nothing complex like deductive reasoning here, just a simple case of two plus two equaling four.

Of course, there is nothing to prevent Jon Sprague from taking a new screen name and returning to his undercover Hearn-AMC campaign work.

I could tell from the constant yet oddly confident confusion and the slipshod construction of the complaint that Jack wrote this document himself, and that Jack had done nothing to confirm what he had been told by others or what he had supposed on his own. If I were on Jack Hearn’s slate, or if I were supporting the Hearn-AMC campaign, I would be embarrassed by Jack’s sloppy approach to important matters and his failure to draw distinctions between two meetings two months apart not once, not twice, but several times.

Of course, Jack and his diehard supporters would argue in Jack’s defense that Jack did not even know about the informational AMO membership area meeting in Newport News on May 26. But that would confirm Jack’s inattention and indifference to AMO business — and that would be a far more damning truth about Jack Hearn as a potential president of American Maritime Officers.

Tom Bethel

It would seem the linchpin of Bethel’s campaign is personal attacks on the AMC and Jack in particular. Hardly surprising.

I once had an idea for one of those John Grisham legal thrillers. A somewhat simple man is on trial, and his lawyer is corrupt, and basically on the take from the government. The plea bargain scene would go something like this:

PROSECUTOR: You know you have no case. How about a plea for, say, 20 years?
DEFENSE LAWYER: We both know he didn’t do it. But you know you’re not going to find the real killer. So, how about this: you kick me, say 50 grand and look the other way while my firm loots our coffers, and I’ll agree to 30 years?
PROSECUTOR: How about 100 grand, we don’t know anything about your looting, in exchange for 45 years? That dumb bastard won’t be out until he’s 65.
DEFENSE (scarcely able to contain his glee): Deal!

Meanwhile the accused is told lies that this was the best deal possible. Bewildered, he protests faintly but is told the only other option is the death penalty. The accused agrees.

Well, this has just turned into one swirling shitstorm eh… I know personally this forum is viewed by many in the AMO Membership, of which 99% stay silent, mostly due to “better things to do with my time” or “I don’t want to be kicked out of the union”. Valid points. After attending monthly meetings during my various time taking classes, I have witnessed the means of evicting a member without their presence by a mere majority vote. Why are we relegated to posting anonymously? Because anytime members raise valid questions or concerns at membership meetings, we are told to “shut up” or “good question and we will get back to you on that. What’s your name?”. We have seriously become a group-at-large afraid of speaking up due to fear of retribution. Isn’t that sad?

I am not a candidate for office, I do not know anyone running for office on a personal level, and my only exposure to the current elected officials is through a few membership meetings and visiting the union office in Dania once or twice. Aside from the whole pension thing, my experience with the current administration is lackluster at best. Please stop the propaganda. Every union in America is guilty of this, but regarding AMO, it’s almost too much. Reading the monthly newspaper makes me sick. Great cartoons…except I read the comic strip in the Sunday paper, not a professional trade publication. Any possibility of printing the BAD news too? We all know ships go to scrap, so print it (it is news that affects the union…). Why aren’t wages and contracts available to members to review? How many times have you read this - “We secured a substantial salary increase…”? How much?!? We lose contracts, but only seem to print the “new” jobs. For an onlooker outside the AMO realm, they may be fooled into believing the union is doing so well it’s unbelievable! Well, we all know that is far from the truth.

And in response to Awulfclark, you are on the right track with the Bell Curve idea. I like it, but it doesn’t address the fact that everyone will be clamoring for top-pay jobs to maximize their contribution amounts. Another measure is to declare vesting after, say three years of 220+ pensionable days (wait, that screws the guys that are getting a second pension, now I get it).

The time frame for returning to fully-funded status is unacceptable, as well as are the actual 100% percentage rates. If people succeeded in getting 30%+ ROI in 2009, why didn’t the union? Why can’t the union in the future? To tell me I will initially get just over $1000 a YEAR contributed is disgusting! My ENTIRE YEAR’S contribution is less than three days pay!?! And I agree that age should have no part in this plan. Why are SIU guys getting credit as well? Oh yeah, because we bought back into the AFL-CIO via SIU, so now it’s time to scratch Sacco’s back.

I am fed up with this administration, and while I have reservations about voting for people with a lack of professional union experience, they cannot possibly run it into the ground any worse than the current bunch of losers.

As a side note, I was reluctant to post anything, as we have all seen that excerpts can be taken and used at will by 3rd parties. The law of the Internet I suppose, but sleazy at best.

NewEngr: I DO know some of the AMC people on a personal level. And as a result, I firmly believe they CAN do a worse job than the current bunch.

As for your comment about the $1000 a year; I believe you are in the ballpark, although I had figured closer to $5000 for most members. But either way, its not really alot of money, which contradicts some of the earlier posts about the lump-sum people “hitting the lottery” and “scoring big.”

And yes, some people did have a 30% return in 2009, but that was after the S&P dropped 37% in 2008. I think the days of double-digit returns are over for most of us.

I just did a quick figure and, unless I calculated wrong, the yearly contribution is LESS than $1000 in my case - it’s approximately $920. This is based on ((day rate x 180) x 0.0171). Yes this is calculated at the Schedule 1 factors - but that is what we will have to live with for an estimated seven years. So by the time the Schedule 2 factors come into play, I will have approximately half of my working career in…or my working career based on what we used to get (no longer planning on having enough union pension money in my mid-40s). Then again, any successful person will tell you to never count on any money unless it is what you have saved/invested, and to never count on anyone except yourself.

Perhaps we could elect the new AMC guys and “create” advisor positions for the defeated like what happened to a certain AMO official a few years back when he lost his re-election… No, I’m not serious about that.

As to the investment market turbulence in recent years, in 2008 a lot of people lost significant savings, but those close to me (family and friends), including myself, only lost 4% max…some even managed to barely break into the black. That’s also risk-factors ranging from 3 to 7. Our pension fund should have never been leveraged anything close to what it was, and to lose our money like they did, it obviously was over-exposed and obviously was not attended to properly.

The new Defined Contribution Plan is, as I have stated before, exciting in that we as individuals will control our own portfolio. The downside is the numbers the Trustees created. It is too weighted to benefit our senior members. I am all for being rewarded for service, but not at the expense of younger members. AMO will not have any younger members with these percentages. What college graduate would accept this offer when most non-union companies pay better with very good 401(k)s? We all know who those are. Why do deep-sea companies not offer a matching 401(k)? Oh that’s right, because the union would not be able to use those contributions to benefit THEIR coffers. Why are we not allowed to contribute our own earnings to the new DCP? Many companies now require employee involvement in retirement options. Offering a higher percentage to younger members (with less at the top-end) BUT only vested after five years is the best option to prevent “hit-and-run” problems.

No matter who is elected for what position we are all overdue for some answers. While those will probably never come to fruition, AMO needs several changes to come into the current working environment and to benefit the membership as a whole. I have seen what the current group can do and I am not impressed.

We do not have a matching 401K instead of these lousy percentages because the CURRENT AMO OFFICIALS ALREADY HAVE A MATCHING 401K. This is a “dirty little secret” and I say secret because no where is it ever mentioned, not the Currents or the AMO paper that the current officials enjoy this special EXTRA pension plan. If we were to go to a matching 401K that would level the playing field for all some what it wouldnt help the current officials because THEY ALREADY HAVE IT.
I have noticed the Why Change website will not discuss this or the huge wage increases they have gotten.
Does any one think it is fair, deserved or proper for them to have this matching 401K while the sea going membership got nothing in 2010, let alone all the years they have been getting this huge , hidden perk?

You are right no college educted guy whats this for 7 years, they would be stupid to accept it. What this administration wants is SIU upgraders, because it is some what better than what they were getting.

At least 2000 guys were blown away when they opened thier pension statements, yes, we dont know what we will get with the AMC, but we do know what we got with this administration, one way tickets to the poor house.

The current President spent two years on a tug boat, he has no idea what it is like to miss holidays, birthdays, graduations, not being at a loved ones bedside when they die ect…

Why are AMO plans people getting 100% benefit already? Is it because they do a dangerous job? Is it because they sleep in their own bed every night? Is it because they dont miss all the items mentioned above?

One last thing, from reading all the posts on both sides it seems the Why Change people are the ones hung up about the lawsuits. Read them yourselves.

Stay tuned for the top ten reasons to CHANGE NOW!!