Upgrade question, GMDSS, Radar

Very simple question. If you hold a general radiotelephone operators license and a GMDSS license with the FCC, as well as a “ship radar endorsment/certificate” does that count for the courses you need to upgrade to 500 ton master NC? I have a feeling I know the answer but I would like to check with all of you to have your input.


Per MCP-FM-NMC5-67 (500/1600 Master Checklist) you will need the following:

[B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][LEFT]Other Requirements – [/B][/SIZE][/FONT](includes STCW) [B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Reference:[/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]First Aid (completed within 1 year) (unless previously met) 11.205 PQEB
CPR (must be valid) (unless previously met) 11.205 PQEB
Approved Basic & Advanced firefighting courses; (unless previously met) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]11.205 / 11.401 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB
Valid, approved radar observer course (unless previously met) 11.401 PQEB[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]Qualification as AB [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Unlimited or Limited (AB Special or AB-OSV satisfy the
AB requirement for Officer endorsements permitting service on vessels of
1600 gross tons and less). (see AB checklist); (Exams required)
11.401 PQEB[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]PSC / Lifeboatman[/LEFT]
[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]See [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Lifeboatman/PSC [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]checklist
12.05-3 PQEB
Basic Safety Training; or Continued Competency in [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]BST [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]11.202 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB
Rating Forming Part of a Navigational Watch – [/SIZE][/FONT][B]Assessments ONLY[/LEFT]
[/B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT](unless previously met)[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1][LEFT]MLD-WI-CG-
12.05-3; 12.05-7[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]PQEB
Bridge Team Work / Bridge Resource Management ([/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]BRM[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2])
(unless previously met)[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1][LEFT]11.202 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB
Medical Care Provider / Medical 1[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]st [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]Aid Provider (unless previously met) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]11.903 / PL 9-99 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB[/LEFT]
[/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2][LEFT]Flashing Light [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]– course (unless previously met) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]11.401 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB
Automatic Radar-Plotting Aids ([/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]ARPA[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]) (Optional) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]11.202 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB[/LEFT]
Global Maritime Distress & Safety System ([/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]GMDSS[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]) & [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]FCC [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]lic. (Optional) [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=1]11.202 [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=2]PQEB

Theyt do not qualify for getting a GMDSS operator endorsement on your STCW as they do not have practical assessments of competence. But, if you do not have GMDSS you can still get STCW, it just won’t be endorsed for GMDSS and you won’t be able to work on a vessel w. GMDSS