Unlimited Tonnage Time as A.B. for 3rd/2nd Mate

[quote=Cal;12023]Let’s not forget about 46 CFR section 10.211

(d) Service on a Dual Mode Integrated Tug Barge (ITB) unit is creditable for original or raise of grade of any deck licenses. Service on a Dual Mode ITB with an aggregate tonnage of over 1600 gross tons is creditable on a two-for-one basis (two days experience equals one day of creditable service) for up to 50 percent of the total service on vessels over 1600 gross tons required for an unlimited license. The remaining required service on vessels of over 1600 gross tons must be obtained on conventional vessels or Push Mode ITBs.

With 20 years, I’m sure you have time with Dual-Mode ITB’s as well (I’m assuming the 310 - 12 hour days are Push Mode). The definition of Dual-Mode seems to be quite loose, as long as the barge has a notch and towing gear, the tug can fit in the notch and has the towing winch, they consider it dual-mode. Combine the tonnage of the Tug and Barge, the result is rounded UP to the nearest 1,000 and anything over 10,000 is considered AGT.

Please share whatever information you find, I’m in a course for a 500/1600T NC Mate’s license but based on my sea service, I’m going to attempt to use this “Loophole” to sit for a 3rd Mate NC AGT. From the people I’ve spoken with it sounds encouraging, but what the individual evaluator is going to do, who knows.[/quote]

Hey Cal thanks for your input about the dual mode ITBs. The one I was on (the Jamie A. Baxter) was unlimited tonnage single mode meaning that it could not tow…no towing winch…and the Licensed persons onboard had to have Unlimited tonnage licenses. I served onboard as an AB and Bosun. I received a letter from the CG acknowleding 310 days as an AB. Though I worked a 0600 to 1800hrs. day watch I am sure that they will only count this time as 8 hour days. That’s been discussed on some previous threads and I think that the consensus was that the CG would only give you 8 hour days for that time. I have been sailing as Master on offshore supply vessels for 20 years and have had a license for 26 years. That 20 years is what I think should count for something in obtaining the Third Mate Unlimited. It is true that I can sit for the 3rd/2nd mate no problem but unless I can show unlimited tonnage time as AB for 365 eight hour days, I will end up with a restricted tonnage 3rd mate license. At least that is how I am reading the CFR and I need some one to prove me wrong. The CG has lost my time form 1971 to 1979 when I sailed with the SIU on unlimited tonnage ships as OS and AB. I am trying to find that time and have some folks working on it, one of which is Chief Cavo and his colleagues in the CG. Read Title 46 10.407 (a) and tell me what you think it means about the 3 years of sea service…must I be holding an AB ticket the whole time or just during the 180 days?