Training in the industry.... WTF!?!

[QUOTE=cntrydog;79899]… my company has several people in positions of authority that pull ridiculous stuff simply because they have the power. I don’t agree with actions of that caliber and believe in being humble. If you can’t get your people to work with or for you without you pulling rank…then you have a major issue being a leader.

My entire life I have learned and been taught by some great people that you will always get better and more effecient results leading by example and respect as opposed to authority and demand…[/QUOTE]

You think you’re first crewmember that thinks the capt has his head up his ass? What you’re saying is you don’t agree with the way your boss runs the show, you think the captain should be humble and lead by example etc.

In the entire history of the maritime industry has any captain agreed with a deck hand that the deck hand can do a better job running the boat? If you can pull it off I think you will be the first.

K.C.

hey country dog,

Take if from someone who has followed that path. You can’t do both. Crusader for working conditions or wheelhouse candidate? Choose one. I suggest the wheelhouse but follow your own course.

BTW, if you choose crusader for changing the terms & conditions of your employment be prepared to go it alone. Your so-called supporters will turn out to be “galley warriors”; only willing to speak up while safely away from earshot of the boss. They will “hold your coat” while you do the fighting for them.
Even if you do manage to change anything, your co-workers won’t give a f*&k and will label you a troublemaker. You will eventually become an outcast to most companies and your own shipmates. Your shipmates deserve whatever treatment or representation they get, good or bad, because they allow it. Don’t fight for a bunch of sheep, they are happy on their path to mediocrity. Advance your own ass, no one else will.

CntryDog

You need to decide if you want to be a crusader of working conditions in the marine industry or if you what to advance to the wheel house. You can’t do both simultaneously.

I would suggest you follow the wheel house route and get with a company that is a better fit. Being a crusader for better terms & conditions in your workplace is a thankless job. While you may find enthusiastic support among your shipmates in the galley, when they are within earshot of the boss they will inevitably go deaf & dumb, unable to say a word for themselves. They are the famous “galley warriors”. The industry is full of them. Steer clear! You may be able to bring about some temporary improvement at the job but eventually you will become an outcast. Your shipmates will label you a troublemaker to the boss and the company will target you.

Much better course is to get what you need for yourself and move along to something better if you can find it. The galley warriors are happy to be on the path to mediocrity. They deserve whatever treatment or representation they get; good or bad. They choose to remain silent in exchange for the feeling of job security. The company appreciates the sheep.

A mentor told me years ago…" Those that can, stoicly move forward and do. Those that cant bitch and whine about how unfair things are and wait for someone to do it for them" There is a game to played if you want to be in this industry, its a shitty fact but still a fact. Just my Two cents

These are, honestly, some of the wisest words ever written on this forum and if I read them 5 years ago I’d have a cushy office job in Houston by now making big $$.

That said, I would also never have started this site…

[QUOTE=Lookout;80905]Much better course is to get what you need for yourself and move along to something better if you can find it.[/QUOTE]

PERFECT - Most of the time we need to be a team player but always take some time to be by yourself and think. Follow your dream. Several of us on the forum have all ready mentioned we walked off a ship we knew was totally not worthy for various reasons. We didn’t bitch, simply packed our sea bags, paid our own way home. Sometimes quitting is the best option, someone being an habitual quitter because of this or that is something entirely different, something I personally do not like.