The Beaufort Scale allows mariners to estimate wind speed by observing sea surface effects. It ranges from 0 (calm) to 12 (hurricane force), providing a standardized way to measure wind force. This scale enhances maritime safety by guiding sailors in making informed decisions about sailing conditions and weather preparedness.
It is possible to find on the internet sites that confuse wind force with weather system type.
Yes indeed, you just have to look at this forum to find plenty examples.
You both need a mediator service . Or may be some forum members will voluntarily and pro bono form a jury box ??
Iâve been looking, but nowhere on my Beaufort Scale can I find the definition of âblowhardâ.
What is your view here? I think itâs been covered but I donât mind reviewing.
I have expressed my view in the Bomb Cyclone thread but it could be received as sarcastic 
To predict âsarcasmâ in my comments is a lot easier then weather as âsarcasmâ is my genetic impediment in social contacts.
But my view here is that both of You Gents are right and I am at a loss understanding what the argument is all about . I will examine both threads again and see if i am prepared to take sides as I deeply respect both interlocutors and their passion for research . Sometimes neutrality is the best option to live happily and be friends with everybody.
Words can take on different meanings depending on context.
When the term âhurricaneâ is used in the context of an official forecast it refers to a tropical cyclone.
In the context of the Beaufort Scale the same term refers to wind force.
For a Tropical Cyclone to be called a âHurricaneâ in an official forecast it has to reach hurricane force sustained wind (Bf 12).
But they are called Hurricanes only if they occure in the Atlantic Ocean, or the eastern part of the Pacific (i.e. on either coast of the US, since TRS doesnât occure on the European side of the North Atlantic)
If a âleftover hurricaneâ still packs Bf. force12 wind when it approach Europe, it is still called a âHurricaneâ because of the wind, not because of itâs origin.
It looses itâs designation as TC (or TRS) and the name given by US weather centre, (but MAY be given a new name in Europe).
A storm centre developing in mid- and high latitudes, which are likely to reach wind force of ,Bf 12 (64 kts. or above) may be forecast as âHurricane force windâ, or simply as a âHurricane/Orkanâ (depending on the language used in the forecast)
So am I, since we seams to agree on the fundamentals:
A Hurricane/Taifun(Typhoon)/ Cyclone is a Tropical Cyclone system by different name, depending on where they occure.
The Beaufort Scale define wind force as experienced, from Bf. Force 0 (Calm)
to Bf. Force 12 (Hurricane), regardless of what kind of weather system (or weather phenomena) that causes it.
To void confusion for those who believe that the term âHurricaneâ only applies to âTropical Cyclones of hurricane force, or aboveâ it has become necessary to use the term âHurricane Forceâ in all other cases.
PS> May I suggest that everybody should adopt the term "Taifun (Typhoon), since that is the term I am most familiar with?
No it doesnât.
It needs both.
They arenât the same thing.
The hurricane / typhoon / cyclone
terminology is not relevant to this discussion.
Yes it does, at least on this side of the Atlantic.
Hurricane and Orkan means the same and the words have the same origin.
Yes it is. It is the term used to describe (and forecast) a Tropical Cyclone exceeding hurricane force by the Beaufort scale in different parts of the world.
You call it a Hurricane, I call it a Taifun, (or Typhoon when speaking in the English language)
PS> Last time I had to deal with a TC of magnitude 5 was in Darwin in 2006.
Cyclone Monica: http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/history/monica.shtml
The Chinese MODU Kan Tai 4 was in Darwin after a tow from China.
She was laying alongside a wharf in East Arm, preparing for a drilling operation Timor Sea, when the warning was issued for a strong Cyclone crossing over York Peninsula and entering Gulf of Carpentaria
I was called on to go attend as MWS in case the cyclone should hit the Darwin area.
Initially it was forecast to enter the coast near Gove and die out over land, but then is changed track of and headed north of Arhemland, with the possibility that it would follow a track similar to a cyclone that hit Darwin hard in 1975.
It was decided to bring the rig out to an anchorage in the bay just south of Darwin port, anchor the rig, shutdown all systems and abandon the rig to her faith.
Luckily Monica (maybe attracted by somebody waiving a big cigar?) cross the coast and moved over land as it passed to the east of Darwin.
We re-boarded the rig and moved her back to the wharf in East Arm, so âno drama mateâ.
Then even Orkan isnât correct if itâs not a tropical cyclone. Hereâs the definition of hurricane from the World Meteorological Organization (the last I checked Norway is a part of the world):
But Orkan isnât truly synonymous with hurricane, it actually means something slightly different. Orkan is used to refer to any storm of hurricane force winds, not only tropical cyclones like hurricane.
3 posts were split to a new topic: Haying in NZ
Iâve made numerous round-the-world trips, Iâm aware that the terms vary according to geographical location.
The fact that terms for TCs vary has no bearing on a discussion that is specifically about the term 'âhurricaneâ as used by meteorological organizations.
Use of terminology used by metrological organizations for TCs of hurricane force varies by where the are located, what language they use and who their customers are.
PS> When you are in Asia Pacific waters the best sources of Typhoon warnings are local. Most have English language bulletins for international shipping.
Thanks for confirming what I have said all along:
And that the term âHurricaneâ in the English language is just the same as Orkaan in Dutch, or Orkan in Norwegian, German and in several other European languages.
Since we all agree, that is the argument about? 
That is what I donât understand.
You continue to insist that the term applies to any weather with hurricane force winds so we clearly donât all agree.
The fact that you refuse the accept the definition of the term.
Read your own posts, especially the quotes and links.
I am familiar with all my posts. What part about them do you think proves you correct?
Post #12 would be a good start.
To save time look at my post #15.
