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the large boats are stripped out racing machines without hull liners and pipe berths on block and tackles to keep them level. creature comforts include a commode - engine and small galley area with gimbaled stove.
the smaller boats in the 40 ft range are true yachts with interior liners and more comfort IE the family cruiser
the [people that died, one was hit in the head with the boom of the mainsail. the other was flung across the deck as the block and tackle for the mainsail control came across in either a tack or a jibe. he was thrown against a deck winch and died of head injury as a result of hitting the[quote=“ChaplainDarrell, post:1, topic:71472, full:true”]
Not being familiar with sailboat racing, just wondering if anyone knows if these boats are strictly for racing? Are they “sailing yachts”, with cabins and creature comforts? they look very expensive. Are they toy for fabulously wealthy yachtsman like Ted Turner? Inquiring and sometimes fuzzy minds want to know.
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Both incidence while not common do happened
I was referring to those who own a day sailer.
They are the one’s who spend money, not the boat 
The larger point is until recently, a “day sailor” was a relatively small and cheap boat that one could sail for the day. It would not have any overnight accommodation. The idea that one can have a 100+ foot long day sailor seems insane. A merchant equivalent would be putting a chair and outriggers on the stern of a freighter and calling it a fishing boat and then having a bigger freighter for overnight trips.
Play-on-words, not an invitation to a debate on US terms for various sail boats.
Well, great. You help them. I will ignore SOS calls from them.
Apples and oranges, my friend. You get an “A” for effort though.
A good start, but why stop there?
Why as an American taxpayer am I paying anything for crappy FOC ships coming around and running aground in front of my house or sinking someplace? I think any American SAR should go to American flagged vessels only. Wait…why am I even paying for that. If some company wants to buy a ship and cruise it around to make money, how about they fund their own SAR. They aren’t paying me, why do I give a crap what happens to them? XYZ shipping company can have an XYZ helicopter and an XYZX tug and save themselves. No one made them have a ship,. it isn’t a law you have to buy one.
Meanwhile in the real world there are some actual people that obey the law of the sea and help others, no matter how dumb they are. I was delivering a boat back from maintenance on day cold enough to have ice on the deck when I got a call from a tanker. They decided to ignore your theory and were investigating what appeared to be a person on a capsized boat. They couldn’t get close due to draft and enlisted me to help. I was far off and we ended up getting the USCG and a fast fireboat from a local fire company out. The victim was a 16 year-old who was drunk the night before and somehow launched a Hobby Cat into a freezing gale and didn’t get far before he capsized. How we wasn’t already dead at dawn I have no idea, but despite trying his best for the Darwin Award he got home safe and sound to live another day and hopefully learned something. Numerous people went out of their way because of one drunk idiot and they will again for the next one.
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Sea areas are by International agreement divided up into areas under each countries responsibility for coordinating SAR operations.
No one judges anyone during a rescue.
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Over my 45 y3ar career, I have been involved in numerous rescues, Usually dumbassery of some sort was involved, I just can not understand why anyone would put themselves in that position
Nevertheless, the Wright brothers risked their lives to achieve heavier-than-air flight, Hillary climbed Mount Everest, Vasco Da Gama found a sea route to India, Biden bravely tried to quote the Declaration of Independence - you know, the thing … and we all benefit from such intrepid adventurers.
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We have one a couple posts up who vows to ignore distress calls from sailors he deems less worthy, so there is at least one. Max Hardberger in his “nonfictional” book bragged about ignoring a vessel in distress, so maybe 2?
Just remembered, there was a sad case of a boat being run over by a ship near New Zealand, only the wife escaped, the husband and kids drowned. The ship came back, looked at her swimming, and took off. I can’t recall if they ever got caught, but she did survive to tell the tale. Up to 3 now?
People do all kinds of things other people don’t understand, but they more or less get rescued anyway. I hate being cold, but some idiots put planks on their feet and take off down the sides of snowy mountains in the winter at high speed and occasionally need a rescue or a trip to the morgue.I wouldn’t do it if you paid me, but they seem to have fun.
It will be sad grey world if everyone just sticks to being safe on their couch and never does anything interesting because something bad might happen.
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In 1979, at the peak of the great exodus from Vietnam, I was Captain on a drillship operating in the South China Sea. We observed many ships taking evasive action to avoid any of the overloaded refugee boat getting near to them.
We were drilling with 8 anchors deployed so we ended up being the obvious target for a lot of them.
PS> If I was Captain on one of the ships avoiding them, would I have done the same?
Hard to say, but I like to think not.
Lot of problems for those who did pick up refugees, since it was difficult to find a port that would take them.
Then we had the Tampa and the deplorable conduct of the Australian authorities.
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The Tampa incident was political messaging, pure and simple. The government decided to act strongly to send a message to asylum seekers worldwide that they would not land in Australia and jump the approved refugee queue. Australia was very generous at the time in taking in approved refugees for resettlement.
I spoke personally at the time to the then Defence Minister, Peter Reith, at my establishment, HMAS Cerberus. He asked me what I thought of the incident. I expressed strong feelings for the Tampa’s captain and the difficult position he was in. Reith noted that but responded that not one of the asylum seekers would set foot in Australia. I then understood the depth of the government’s conviction.
That conviction worked well and was the envy of the world until the squishy, Lefty, ‘compassionate’ Labor Party under PM Kevin Rudd relaxed the rule and the asylum seeker boats started again and huge numbers disappeared at sea in leaky, unseaworthy boats. Some died filmed by TV cameras as their boat was smashed to pieces on the rocks of Christmas Island. We had an influx we couldn’t handle with these people accommodated in every nook and cranny around the nation and people got sick of it.
We elected a PM, Tony Abbot who promised to ‘Stop the boats’, which he did, much to the chagrin of the world’s Lefties who said it couldn’t be done, it was inhumane, it was cruel, it was naughty etc.
But it worked. And we have largely continued that policy with the predictable lapses of the Labor Party again. That policy is this; if you come illegally, you will never settle in Australia.
The point is that good policy sometimes requires hard, hurty decisions, strongly and consistently implemented.
And we learned that squishy, so-called compassionate, right-feeling policies kill people, eventually lose public support, divide the nation and are near impossible to fix.
On Tampa, I had a foot in each camp, but was eventually convinced that the tough love policy was the best answer.
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This is whole nother area, refugees are TRYING to be in distress and get picked up to go to a 1st World country.
How many refugee boats have won the Sydney to Hobart race.
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The unwritten law of the sea (that you assist ANYBODY in danger at sea) does NOT differentiate between refugees, asylum seekers, migrant, WAFIs, or anybody else that put their life on the line by going to sea in unseaworthy boats. (Or from ignorance of the dangers of the sea)
PS> That includes those who stretches the capabilities of their boat, or themselves, when participating in the Sydney to Hobart Race
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