In the news yesterday: http://gcaptain.com/photos-chinas-man-made-island-at-subi-reef/#.VjCiYLdX82w
Can they really do that much in one month when it takes my local council over a year to put a roundabout on a road?
Take a look at the hard edges around the edge of the foreshore, land detail looks superimposed. There is no wharf for getting the amount of equipment needed ashore.
I’m calling fake.
[QUOTE=lm1883;172594]… There is a lot of oil in that part of the Spratly Islands, go figure.[/QUOTE]
That is why there is a lot of propaganda and misinformation being issued by the heavyweights, got to get the public on their side in case the sh1t does hit the fan.
[QUOTE=Day Sailor;172621]That is why there is a lot of propaganda and misinformation being issued by the heavyweights, got to get the public on their side in case the sh1t does hit the fan.[/QUOTE]
I want to know why Greenpeace isn’t there. . . they were all over Shell and their Arctic program that, for the most part, only presented a POTENTIAL of environmental marine damage. . . here we have the Chinese destroying marine habitat and there is absolute silence from the Rainbow Warriors. . . . wonder why?
The Chinese have a reputation for not taking kindly to protestors and not constrained by other countries human rights ideology. You play bad games, prepare to receive bad prizes.
[QUOTE=salt’n steel;172641]The Chinese have a reputation for not taking kindly to protestors and not constrained by other countries human rights ideology. You play bad games, prepare to receive bad prizes.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like Greenpeace needs to man up, then. Where are their convictions?
I actually think the Chinese are missing an opportunity, it looks like it could make a great marina complex. How could we complain, we do it wherever we can in the west.
[QUOTE=cmakin;172627]I want to know why Greenpeace isn’t there. . . they were all over Shell and their Arctic program that, for the most part, only presented a POTENTIAL of environmental marine damage. . . here we have the Chinese destroying marine habitat and there is absolute silence from the Rainbow Warriors. . . . wonder why?[/QUOTE]
Execution vans, on call to any Chinese county sheriff needing to empty some cells. Google it.
An amazingly chilling effect on “protest”
[QUOTE=Day Sailor;172621]That is why there is a lot of propaganda and misinformation being issued by the heavyweights, got to get the public on their side in case the sh1t does hit the fan.[/QUOTE]
Misinformation and suspicion appears to be a common thing in the game played between major powers: http://www.sott.net/article/301115-How-dare-they-Russian-research-vessel-near-US-submarine-base-sparks-Pentagon-frenzy
Hope they know how to stop before they blow as all up.
[QUOTE=ombugge;172742]
…Hope they know how to stop before they blow as all up.[/QUOTE]
Amen to that.
nobody ever had 12mile economic zone around a reef so why are the Chinese whining?
[QUOTE=powerabout;172837]nobody ever had 12mile economic zone around a reef so why are the Chinese whining?[/QUOTE]
12 n.miles is territorial waters and you will notice that the US Navy and Air Force are NOT getting closer than that, although creating an island from a previously submerged reef does not give the right to make territorial claims according to UNCLOS.
China claim historical rights to ALL of the South China Sea inside an imaginary “9-dashed line” that they have drewn on the map in 1947: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/25/us-china-sea-boundary-idUSBRE84O07520120525
As for creating land out of nothing, China is not alone. Malaysia found a small rock sticking up at HHW and created and island called Layang-Layang from that to place a small Naval Base on it. The size of the island was increased to where it today has an airstrip and a Dive Resort: http://www.avillion.com/avillionlayanglayang/
The Philippines grounded an old LCT on a reef and lay claims to that.
Interestingly there are also claims to all or part of the Spratly Islands and reefs from private persons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Morac-Songhrati-Meads
[QUOTE=ombugge;172842]12 n.miles is territorial waters and you will notice that the US Navy and Air Force are NOT getting closer than that, although creating an island from a previously submerged reef does not give the right to make territorial claims according to UNCLOS.
China claim historical rights to ALL of the South China Sea inside an imaginary “9-dashed line” that they have drewn on the map in 1947: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/25/us-china-sea-boundary-idUSBRE84O07520120525
As for creating land out of nothing, China is not alone. Malaysia found a small rock sticking up at HHW and created and island called Layang-Layang from that to place a small Naval Base on it. The size of the island was increased to where it today has an airstrip and a Dive Resort: http://www.avillion.com/avillionlayanglayang/
The Philippines grounded an old LCT on a reef and lay claims to that.
Interestingly there are also claims to all or part of the Spratly Islands and reefs from private persons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Morac-Songhrati-Meads[/QUOTE]
UNCLOS has a clause
"
Artificial islands
are entitled to no maritime zones, except for a 500 metre safety zone."
[QUOTE=powerabout;173199]UNCLOS has a clause
"
Artificial islands
are entitled to no maritime zones, except for a 500 meter safety zone."
[/QUOTE]
Yes I know and agree. I thought I had mentioned that somewhere here? Maybe not.