The boat i work on is standing by without a job. I get a call from the office and it seems that one of our other boats needs a captain to fill in for a captain who was sick. This vessel is crewed by all heavy chain smokers. It is the worst boat i have ever seen as far as smell, it smells like a shit hole due to all the smoking. The office wants me to fill in for a few days untill they can get a replacment captain. I tell the HR man that i will not go because i am a non smoker and try my best to stay healthy. I told him i was willing to be let go because of it but bottom line was i was not going to do it.I guess i will see what happens . I think all vessels should be non smoking inside, Why should my health and comfort suffer because some asshat wants to smoke where i have to live and work? Sorry about the rant butt please let me know where everyone stands on this. P.S this company is looking for crewboat captains if you want info PM me.
Everybody should smoke outside. We have more smokers than non-smokers and nobody complains about going outside.
I agree. Smoking inside makes the boat smell terrible and everything feels nasty and you can never get it clean. Then there is the health issues with the non smokers. I have been on a boat where everyone but me was an inconsiderate smoker. Nothing like eating dinner standing up on the other side of a smoke filled galley.
It seems to me that it is only a matter of time before there is a lawsuit for long term exposure to second hand smoke.
As long as it’s just the captain in the wheel house and he does it with the door open I’m alright. When you get more then that the smoke does get to much for me. I have never had a problem asking someone to please not smoke except in the wheel house, even with I was a deckhand.
Guys smoking in the lounges and galley, that’s rude and should not be tolerated. Most companies do have some sort of smoking policy in this regard. If pushed I could see it coming under hostile work place if you ask that nobody smokes in the galley and other communal places on the boat and that nobody smoke in the wheel house on your watch, and then they give you grief for it.
I do know of one company that has a no smoking in the boats or carry all period. That said they are still a shit company to work for.
What company would that be?
There is no smoking in the “Office” why not on the vessels. I make the smokers go outside to smoke.
[QUOTE=rkbakula;63846]What company would that be?[/QUOTE]
Bordelon Marine
You would be sailing as captain? I would think where and when smoking occurs on a vessel, is well within the authority of the master. I bet there is even a cfr or two somewhere. Don’t damage your career over this issue. Take the job, step on the boat, designate a safe smoking area outside, allow only two smoke breaks per watch, require crew to report to wheelhouse before taking a break, and if anyone breaks your rules write them up for insubordination. If the boat smells, make the crew focus their sanitation efforts on scrubbing yellow stains, and removing the smell. I highly doubt any company will punish you for instituting a reasonable policy to protect their asset.
The boat i was asked to go to is not my regular boat. I was asked to fill in. I can’t go to a boat to fill in and start making demands. I would also be working as a temp captain on that boat and not as the first captain. This is the reason i refused to go.
I think most companies have no smoking policies, and I think they mostly ignore them.
As goes the captain, so goes the ship. No exceptions.
-dennis
I spent most of my career on ‘smoking’ boats. I smoke. The last two years, I have been on a boat where we all smoke, but never inside. The difference is dramatic. I will never allow smoking inside on my boat again.
There’s also the liability of allowing smoking on the inside of the boat. 2nd hand smoke, smoking it berthing areas are two big issues.
Not to mention the fire hazards!
Boy, have times changed:
Yea, that’s me on the throttles.
Edit to post, there’s a huge difference between deep draft SHIPS and boats.
[QUOTE=Sweat-n-Grease;63950]Boy, have times changed:
Yea, that’s me on the throttles.
Edit to post, there’s a huge difference between deep draft SHIPS and boats.[/QUOTE]
That looks like a scene from Tug Boat Annie. That statement makes me feel old.
[QUOTE=Sweat-n-Grease;63950]Boy, have times changed:
Yea, that’s me on the throttles.
Edit to post, there’s a huge difference between deep draft SHIPS and boats.[/QUOTE]
Damn, I thought I saw something that looked like Bailey pneumatic controls. Geez, I am getting old or hallucinating.
It seems to me that it is only a matter of time before there is a lawsuit for long term exposure to second hand smoke.
[QUOTE=captrjo;63935]I spent most of my career on ‘smoking’ boats. I smoke. The last two years, I have been on a boat where we all smoke, but never inside. The difference is dramatic. I will never allow smoking inside on my boat again.[/QUOTE]
You’re part of a growing number of guys who can objectively look at this problem. I’m glad to see it, and I’ve run into plenty of smoking boats where the crew was very accomodating. Good for you guys!
-dennis
[QUOTE=tengineer;63963]Damn, I thought I saw something that looked like Bailey pneumatic controls.[/QUOTE]
But they are, tengineer, they are …
That was the Engine Room on a Lykes Bros C-3, stick ship, the ship is gone and I’m next in line but in no hurry mind you.
[QUOTE=tengineer;63963]Geez, I am getting old or hallucinating.[/QUOTE]
Only you know both answers …