As someone who went to an academy and has been shipping out for about 5 years now, I’m currently wondering what types of positions they have out there for someone who went the deck route. I know making the switch as an engineer is easier, but does anyone have a good idea of what might be out there for us deck guys?
Yes, create your own job with your navigation skills or any interest you have.
Dynamic Positioning Supervisor, Marine Director, Port Captain, Maritime Consultant, Marine Assurance & Compliance Advisor, Auditor, Operations Manager. Also, can work at flag state offices in the US. There are several opportunities out there. Shipping for 5 years will get an entry level position more than likely, but if you go the suggested McDonald’s route, I will give that you can jump to assistant manager.
I sailed with a guy who just made Captain. His wife gave him an ultimatum, choose between going to sea or staying married. He went ashore and got himself a McDonald’s franchise. Last I heard he had 5.
There isn’t a dang thing wrong with working at McDonald’s, although Chick-fil-A works harder to get employees into franchising.
Train conductor, wind turbine tech, maritime crew coordinator, steel mill foreman, climbing arborist. These are a few of the shoreside jobs I’ve looked at-and tried a couple-that, surprisingly, dovetail quite well with a competent sailor’s skills. But then again, since you went the academy route, maybe you’re just looking to push a pencil. No offense intended. If you are, there are plenty of pencils that need pushed.
What about Chippendales?
Never tried that. Thought about OnlyFans, though.
5 years, best options would be to figure out a route that interests you (chartering, technology, regulatory, safety, operations). Maybe take a junior broker or chartering job, that will teach you that part of the industry. Fast paced environment with lots of earning potential and opportunities. But you have to be willing to take a pay cut.
I would rather hire a new college grad who worked at MickyD’s in their spare time than one with a bunch of internships. If you’ll work at Mickey D’s, you’ll do scut work.
Lots of training courses being offered, both online and in person attendance
Here is one possibility:
Or if Superyachts are more your thing:
Here is link to IIMS:
They offer a wider selection of courses, both for commercial and yachting survey
Shore based liner or bulk shipping management Academy grad can be a positive or negative depending. Some companies hire maritime school grads before others particularly for technical positions. Example Haz cargo acceptance, pre planing stowage etc. Others avoid them citing using the job as entry level and expecting to move up the ladder quickly, frequently switching for better opportunities.
My advice solid maritime background even short duration and business experience presents best opportunities. Some of the best shipping company managers I have seen sailed then went back to school for advanced business degrees.
After all ship owners and operators are running a business. Understanding the nautical side is useful. Other than the specialist you may be presented with problems were seagoing experience is essential, but not often. What’s important to the business is cost of a voyage fixed and variable. Cargo mix, how it stows & how much it pays, with the inherent problems each type of cargo. And how much you can charge relative to the competition.
Couple of years you could get a masters degree and be in high demand. Texas A & M has a well respected program.
There are always opportunities for surveyors.
In 2009 a construction/power plant operator called Bechtel had a job fair in my town. I was surprised by all the stuff I was qualified to do. If I wanted to work on land & didn’t have any specific idea what I wanted to do I would start visiting job fairs to see what was out there. Cool way to get free pens, coasters & sticky pads too.
It seems you are not getting the answers you had hoped but know there are a lot of good paying entry and senior deck jobs on merchant ships available at most MEBA and MMP union halls if you’re looking for ocean shipping, if you want to work in port or coastal there are a lot of ferry, tug or dredge, and coastal passengers ships hiring too.
Also, I hope your older co-workers, friends & family members who lived through a few recessions already pointed it out but it’s worth mentioning just in case. It’s not a bad idea to hold on to any job & seniority that you have before & during a recession. A job you take now might not exist next year. The Federal Reserve said they are willing to do whatever it takes to tackle out of control inflation & Chairman Powell said there’s going to be a lot of economic pain to come.
Very wise words. Having lived thru inflation and recessions I can guarantee everyone the US will be in a recession very soon, technically already is. The Fed gave so much money for free to the big banks that asset prices went to stupid levels. Now inflation has hit due to the free money given to the big banks and other varied reasons there is no choice but to put the country into a recess or recession before there is great discontent. If you have a job, hang on and save money. This is going to get ugly.
Ding fries are done ding fries are done