Seafarer's Union, Your Insight & Advice

Just had the pre-school physical. I’ve never had a physical that thorough. Kind of felt like the rental car were you point out all the blemishes so that you don’t become responsible for paying for them.

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They are very thorough. You have to pay for the first physical. The following annual physicals for your clinic card are free. Also, if you need a CG physical, just tell the patrollman to include the paperwork when you take your annual. It’s free also. Good Luck.

[quote=Capt_Anonymous;16153]I’ve heard the Paul Hall school is very good.

If you have a choice, go engine room, unless you like being out of work.[/quote]

3A/E’s, Electronics Officers, and electricians are always in demand. Depending on the ship and union contract, electricians can make as much as a 3A/E. EO’s can make about the same as a 2A/E.

[I][quote=Navy SWO;16174]Veterans Program has been suspended. USCG stopped awarding RFPNW to the graduates. Until that gets rectified no more program.[/quote][/I]

The military veteran RFPNW course has not been suspended [U]by the Coast Guard[/U]. It continues to be approved for exactly what it was first approved for in 2002. The program is and has always been approved [U]only[/U] for the assessments needed for RFPNW. Indeed, its name is “RFPNW [U][B]Assessment[/B][/U] for Military Veterans” [emphasis added]. You can verify it’s still approved at http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/training/rfpnw.pdf

The SIU course has never been approved for RFPNW sea service, mariners have to provide documentation of six months of qualifying military time with their applications. This clearly stated in the Coast Guard approval (see the NMC link above).

Note that the Coast Guard will accept the Navy helmsman and lookout PQS to meet assessment requirements for RFPNW. If you completed this PQS and have six months of qualifying military time, you qualify for RFPNW.

Also, the Coast Guard accepts Navy recruit basic training to meet all of STCW Basic Saferty Training, except for the survival suit assessments. If you took this Navy training, you can meet BST with just a 2-hour survival suit course. (Proviso: you must also show an unbroken chain of one year of sea service (military or commercial) for every five years since you took the recruit training.)

Great info in this thread. SIU, as most unions in my experience, will not talk to outsiders, unless you are planning on joining. Even then, a lot of info is withheld until you begin the process. Unions have a lot of competition! I would check SUP (Sailors Union of the Pacific) at http://www.sailors.org/wcs.html . This is a direct link to their newspaper, which gives a lot more insight into what is going on in the deep sea industry. A lot more so than the SIU paper, which is more rosy. Also, check out the officers web pages, MEBA http://www.d1meba.org/, MM&P http://www.bridgedeck.org/, and AMO http://www.bridgedeck.org/. Read all you can absorb to get a good idea of what is going on in the industry. If you think of going engineering, another good link is Marine firemans union at http://www.mfoww.org/history.htm. Good reading.

If you’re into nostalgia, I found this vid:
http://www.nuthinfancy.us/siu.html

Wow, excellent.

Note the photographer and director. . . . .

paul hall is accepting applications again? i called a little while back and was told they had so many applicants they had no idea when they would be accepting more.

twic took about a month, mmd took about a month. if you want your stcw to appear on your mmd though, you need an approved course in addition to your BST ( a little tidbit i didn’t find noted anywhere, was told after I got the MMD and was wondering how they could have left that off :slight_smile:

[quote=jccorreu;18065]paul hall is accepting applications again? i called a little while back and was told they had so many applicants they had no idea when they would be accepting more.

twic took about a month, mmd took about a month. if you want your stcw to appear on your mmd though, [B][U]you need an approved course in addition to your BST [/U][/B]( a little tidbit i didn’t find noted anywhere, was told after I got the MMD and was wondering how they could have left that off :)[/quote]

What course are you referring to?

This is not completely accurate. It’s not a course per se you need, but you need to hold some other STCW certification such as Rating Forming Part of a Navigational/Engineering Watch (RFPNW or RFPEW), Proficiency in Survival Craft (lifeboatman), or Medical Care Provider. If you only hold “entry-level” credentials, you won’t be issued an STCW certificate on the MMC.

The above notwithstanding, you can get some STCW credentials like Medical Care Provider or RFPNW-Lookout Only with just a course, and others if you have the required sea time and take an approved course (Proficiency in Survival Craft requires sea time and a course).