I have heard all the “urban legends” and/or rumors for years - but does anyone out there know the real, actual, listed USCG rules concerning an officer quitting a ship - relief or no relief - in a US Port? Thanks
What don’t you understand?
You own the license, the company only leases it. When you get sick of the shit, pack your bag and hit the gangway.
I reckon it maybe different if you are under articles, but if not you’re just an employee at will. They can fire you just as easily as you can quit.
[QUOTE=z-drive;125563]I reckon it maybe different if you are under articles, but if not you’re just an employee at will. They can fire you just as easily as you can quit.[/QUOTE]
Does anybody on the coastal runs use articles or is that strictly a blue water unlimited tonnage thing?
Lol I’ve “signed” articles many times without knowing. Would have been cool in court I guess. I could look it up, but I have encountered them on limited tonnage when sailing internationally.
If you can’t get a relief, what kind of a tub are you on? I’d run for the hills.
Oh did u have to ask?? Stand by!
[QUOTE=catherder;125577]Oh did u have to ask?? Stand by![/QUOTE] I know where you are going with this!
[QUOTE=catherder;125577]Oh did u have to ask?? Stand by![/QUOTE]
Officers with Master of Towing are In very short supply. People having been having trouble getting a relief at some of the best companies.
However wages have NOT risen to meet the demand in spite of the lack of supply. We fools continue to work long hitches for peanuts
Fact. The thing I’m banking on in the long run as a relative youngster is that there will be fewer of us tugboat guys with the “touch” and boat handling experience who worked for the comparatively crap money, while everyone else worked DP and never nearly crapped their pants coming around a sharp bend with a unwieldy barge, know how to use an assist tug, etc. perhaps good boat handlers will become scarcer and thus highly sought in the long run. Low supply, big demand. Then again, maybe we will become obsolete too.
Emphasis: I understand you oilfield guys don’t use DP for everything and do handle your vessels manually in many circumstances.
As someone with a MOTV who is looking to move to from ship docking to another company you would be amazed at how many times I have been told that since I dont have any oil barge experience they dont want to hire me. The companies must not be hurting that bad. I cant afford to take the cut in pay to be a deckhand and work my way back into the wheelhouse, again.
[QUOTE=Bayrunner;125640]As someone with a MOTV who is looking to move to from ship docking to another company you would be amazed at how many times I have been told that since I have any oil barge experience they dont want to hire me. The companies must not be hurting that bad. I cant afford to take the cut in pay to be a deckhand and work my way back into the wheelhouse, again.[/QUOTE]
Eventually the license itself will open doors, in time. A friend that switched companies, with a good bit of oilbarge experience standing watches of his own, has still gotten the run-around…so as you know, but i’ll remind you, there is just no pleasing certain people on Richmond Terrace. This comes up often: “So let me get this straight, you don’t have to do wire or hawser work, make up in push gear, deal with something alongside making you slide like a motherfucker, you CAN see over the barge, you HAVE to take an assist tug…whats the big fuckin deal?” Well yes, 100BBLS of 2 oil is heavy and that takes some getting used to, but if you can handle a boat, you can handle a barge with a little practice. I do most of my work alongside, believe it or not, and in my book its way more of a nuisance when your beam is often 100’+ and you’re trying not to go down the harbor at a 45’ angle.
So… nobody knows the actual CFR or legal precedents, eh? I was hoping for facts, not opinions. I could get opinions in a bar.
[QUOTE=Clear Solution;125562]What don’t you understand?
You own the license, the company only leases it. When you get sick of the shit, pack your bag and hit the gangway.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, brilliant… but if they go off hire at 55 grand a day because they can’t meet the minimum COI manning requirements the company is going to try to recover that money.