[quote=YoungEngineer;28592]Hello all it has been a while since i have logged on. I would like to make a correction to a previous post.
[U]A DDE 4000 under the new MMC rules does. However he must hold a STCW, and OICEW endorment as well. The only reason i do know this to be fact is. I hold a DDE 4000 with STCW / OICEW and i hold international endorsment of 2nd 3rd assistant engineer, Assitant engineer LTD, DDE[/U]
After reviewing many things i have come to find out under the new STCW changes coming in July 2010 (maybee). That the 2nd and 3rd assistant is NOT INTERNATIONAL it is domestic and limited to 500 GRT near coastal. Sorry about the bad information on that post. After hours of talking to the <ACRONYM title=“National Maritime Center”>NMC</ACRONYM>, and <ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM> the new STCW changes are restructering the engineering side. (so to speak) There will be no more DDE 1,000 it will be 2nd, 3rd, asst eng A/E Limited up to 4,000 HP. This will be on domestic vessels near coastal. After following the new chart and hours of mind numbing reading I have found that the <ACRONYM title=“National Maritime Center”>NMC</ACRONYM>/<ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM> are structering the domestic side to mirror the Oceans side. So the chain can look something like this for a new mariner looking to go to the engine room.
3RD Engineer (under 4,000hp)
2ND Engineer (under 4,000hp)
DDE 4,0000 (all these steps are limited to domestic tonnage 500 GRT near coastal)
DDE AHP / A/E Limited Oceans (1,600 GRT 3,000 ITC) a DDE AHP is good for any waters and the A/E Limited Oceans you do qualify for but have to take the electrical exam. For those of you who are like me and have to start from square one. Electrical can be a pain in the you know what. Also note the tonnage changes. You no longer get 6,000 ITC with a DDE AHP.
C/E Limited or 3rd A/E
both of these positions require testing and evaluation and is the next step in the chain after you obtain your DDE AHP.
There is a question i would like to answer also that was posted.
[U]Just how am I supposed to get the RFPEW signed off if I there are almost no jobs for wipers on deep-sea ships (except SIU controlled vessels)? And I was hoping to possibly go to the GOM on a large OSV to get the RFPEW assesments done… But It needs to be on a large ship with a 1st, 2nd and 3rd AE’s? Or can a DDE sign-off on it?[/U]
Yes a DDE 4,000 can sign off on your assesments. However the person holding the DDE 4,000 [B]must have STCW / OICEW[/B] endorsment on thier license. If they don’t your going to need someone with a bigger license to sign you off. (this is still subjet to change when the new STCW changes come out).
I am a hawspiper and have had to study many books that were hand me downs to pass the <ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM> exams. However just as some extra info for those of you starting out. My brother is attending school for QMED-Oiler a 9 day class, testing on the 9th day. (bayu labatry AL) <–sorry for the spelling of that one. He was informed that when he passes he will get a certificate mailed to him in 7 to 10 days that he can submitt to the <ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM>/<ACRONYM title=“National Maritime Center”>NMC</ACRONYM> and obtain his ticket. This school was around $800.00 with meals and sleeping accomidations. After doing this there is no testing at the REC since it is now a <ACRONYM title=“United States Coast Guard”>USCG</ACRONYM> approved course. This can make things a bit easier for those of you just starting out. As for the RFPEW and getting your assesments singed off. This can be alot harder than sqeezing blood from a carrot. However if you do come across a DDE 4,000 just ask if they have STCW/OICEW endorsment, and your in.
As for skipping QMED and heading straight to DDE 4,000 i would suggest testing and doing this very promptly. With the new changes coming you will not be able to do this. For example i have a DDE 4,000 Any unlicensed rating (QMED) STCW/OICEW as stated above i have the new 2nd, 3rd, etc. Limited to 500 GRT near coastal domestic. I have fallen under the new STCW rules even though they are not in effect as of yet. I did take some advise and submitt a packet to obtain a C/E Limited OSV and my application was withdrawn. I did not get any official answer as to why however my guess is 1. due to the new changes comming into effect it no longer applies. or 2. since i am still in the process of testing for my DDE AHP / A/E Limited Oceans It was withdrawn for that reason.
So at the rate things are changing some of the old rules may not apply anymore. All i can say is good luck and hope you can make your goals.
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A big THANKS for one of the best posts on these forums in a long time!
Also thanks for answering one of my questions!