Qmed endorsement


#1

I have an unlicensed engineer on my boat. He has passed the qmed course and wants to get the qmed endorsement on his MMD. The tonnage of my vessel will not allow him to work as an oiler to get the required sea time and there is no licensed engineer on my boat to sign him off for his Rating Forming Part of a Engineering watch. As I said he has taken and passed his Qmed course and has taken Basic Safety training. He wants to get on a bigger boat, with a licensed engineer to start working on his Rating. Could you tell me what else he needs to do to get the endorsement on his MMD and will the Qmed rating have a STCW certificate with it? Thanks.


#2

Hello,

I don’t mean to hijack your thread, but do you know where your unlicenced engineer had taken the QMED classes? I have no sea time, but have been interested in getting a QMED rating and working in a ship’s engine room as a new career. I also live in Maine, and I hold a 4th Class Stationary Steam Engineers licence, but can’t seem to find work in this field here in Maine.

DryPipe.


#3

Look here for schools CG approved schools, www.uscg.mil/nmc/training/qmed.pdf


#4

this “checklist” is a good place to start??

http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/checklists/MCP-FM-NMC5-61%20RFPEW.pdf?list2=checklists%2FMCP-FM-NMC5-61+RFPEW.pdf&B1=GO%21

**note that “checklist” makes note of the applicable CFR’s

CFR search link:http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfr-table-search.html#page1

**drypipe check out this NMC link:http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/approved_courses.asp


#5

Thank you all. I found a 5 week 200hr OMED-Oiler course from Northeast Maritime Institute in Mass. However the prerequisites to qualify for this course is 180 days working in a engine room at sea. I don’t think I qualify for this program.

There is SIU - Seafarers.org in MD., and they have an apprentice QMED program but they are not open to the public at this time for new apprentices because of low employment demand.

Maybe the best approach to get some sea time under my belt as a unlicenced engineer or unrated QMED is to: look for a job on a boat? I did have a USCG Z card once, but never used it and it has now expired. Should or can I renew my Z card?

Maybe I can go down to MD., and volunteer as an oiler aboard the ‘John W. Brown’ this summer? What do you guys think is best? Also, IF I happen to be lucky, and do get my Z card renewed and get the 180 days of required sea time and study on my own WITHOUT GOING TO ANY QMED COURSES, ( which I did to get my 4th Class Stationary Steam Engineers Licence), can I still qualify to sit for any USCG QMED exam?

How do I get my foot in the door with this trade?

Drypipe.


#6

I have forgotten to say that my trade is a field construction boilermaker and from time to time I have volunteered as a fireman/water tender on a narrow gauge steam locomotive. It was from here that I was able to get a State Of Maine High Pressure Boiler Operators Licence and as time went on, I studied ON MY OWN and was able to get the 4th Class Stationary Steam Engineers Licence. I have always been interested in steam plant operations, but I have not been able to work in a stationary plant due to lack of hands on experience as a watch engineer, except from working on a locomotive. I have applies for several open positions in Maine as a utility watch stationary engineer, but have not had any success!
As a 47 year old welder-boilermaker, construction work has been very slow because of the economy where contractors are not hiring from my local union hall. Yes, I am still unemployed. As a result, I have been thinking of taking my interests and book knowledge of plant operations to sea by way of a new career working in an engine room of a ship. I have always loved ships especially steam powered, but diesel or gas turbine will do just fine. I really do need some help to get my foot into the door. Maybe I’m too old to start a new trade-career?

Any further suggestions would be of great help!

DryPipe.


#7

drypipe,

this link explains alot:http://www.mptusa.com/pdf/mpt_catalog.pdf


#8

Maine Capt. - like your avatar it takes me back a few years.
During the sixties I accumulated quite bit of my sea time engineering aboard uninspected fishing vessels. Unless the regs. have changed you should be able to document his sea time for at the very least an entry level license and m.m.d.
Think s.t.c.w. will be a separate certificated course.
As captain of a documented vessel you have the authority to provide a letter of sea time.
Advise him to apply for the highest tonnage his portfolio will allow and even try for something higher even if rejected keep on trying. At the end of several decades in the industry he’ll be happy he bumped the limit at every opportunity.


#9

Seadawg,

Thank You. Looks like a very nice school! I’ll read the program info. My choices are either go back to school and try to get a student loan $$, or try to do it the other way by working the 180 days at sea on a vessel to qualify to sit for a QMED exam? Here, I would have to find employment on my own which may be close to impossible because I do not know anyone in this industry. However that said, is this second option a possibility? Can this rating be earned instead of going to a school?

DryPipe.


#10

[I][quote=drypipe;25338]I have forgotten to say that my trade is a field construction boilermaker and from time to time I have volunteered as a fireman/water tender on a narrow gauge steam locomotive. It was from here that I was able to get a State Of Maine High Pressure Boiler Operators Licence and as time went on, I studied ON MY OWN and was able to get the 4th Class Stationary Steam Engineers Licence. I have always been interested in steam plant operations, but I have not been able to work in a stationary plant due to lack of hands on experience as a watch engineer, except from working on a locomotive. I have applies for several open positions in Maine as a utility watch stationary engineer, but have not had any success![/I]
[I]As a 47 year old welder-boilermaker, construction work has been very slow because of the economy where contractors are not hiring from my local union hall. Yes, I am still unemployed. As a result, I have been thinking of taking my interests and book knowledge of plant operations to sea by way of a new career working in an engine room of a ship. I have always loved ships especially steam powered, but diesel or gas turbine will do just fine. I really do need some help to get my foot into the door. Maybe I’m too old to start a new trade-career?[/I]

[I]Any further suggestions would be of great help![/I]

[I]DryPipe.[/quote][/I]

Take a look at 46 CFR 11.516(a)(2). You can qualify for a license as 3rd Assistant Engineer with “three years of service as an apprentice to the machinist trade engaged in the construction or repair of marine, locomotive, or stationary engines, together with one year service in the engineroom as oiler, watertender, or junior engineer.”


#11

Oh, Mr Cavo, nice. I had no idea that there were such common-sense equivalencies available to prospective mariners.


#12

Mr. Cavo,
Thank You. I shall look up that information. I also hold a Union Pipefitter’s Book as a Journeyman Steamfitter if that may help. To serve as an “apprentice” as a machinist, does that mean serving as an apprentice from a school or working in the field under the wing of a licensed engineer or qualified machinist through an employer?
How do I find a company that would be willing to take me in as an apprentice machinist?

DryPipe.