[image] Future of Deck Officers 2019 and Beyond Something you ought to be aware of. A graduate of an ABET accredited school with a degree in electrical or mechanical engineering, and six months of seatime is entitled to sit for the USCG 3rd AE exam. You can get your national USCG license as 3AE w…

I’m glad that this issue with obtaining STCW OICEW has come up. I’ve had a similar question about Mate and OICNW for a while. OICNW Less Than 500 GT Oceans is governed by 46 cfr 11.319. Both the CFRs and the checklist have a table in them that states the entry path from a national Mate Oceans or …

From 46 CFR 11.329 : (a) To qualify for an STCW endorsement as OICEW, an applicant must— (1) Provide evidence of seagoing service as follows: (i) Thirty-six months of seagoing service in the engine department; or (ii) Successful completion of an approved training program, which includes a combina…

[image] Future of Deck Officers 2019 and Beyond (e) Seafarers with one of the following national officer endorsements are eligible to apply for this endorsement upon completion of the requirements in the following table: Entry path from national endorsements …Sea service* You forgot to read w…

[image] Future of Deck Officers 2019 and Beyond So, when I read the table, it seems to state that you are automatically eligible for OICNW if you have your National Mate. No, only that it’s possible to get it without additional sea time not that it’s automatic. The table is just a summary, th…

[image] Future of Deck Officers 2019 and Beyond No, only that it’s possible to get it without additional sea time not that it’s automatic. The table is just a summary, the rules from section (a) always apply. I had gone back and forth on this. When you look at the table under columns for asse…

Just keep in mind that the table is just a summary of the actual rules and that [image] 3 A/E without OICEW Shipping Ideas general rules of legal and regulatory interpretation would apply and a summary cannot prevail over the specific provisions it summarizes.

I wouldn’t qualify the table as a summary. It is 11.319(d), and therefore at the same level of regulations as 11.319(a), which it refers back to in the case of assessments and training. It seems that the sole purpose of the table is to ensure that only mariners with a national endorsement are elig…

[image] Future of Deck Officers 2019 and Beyond It is 11.319(d), and therefore at the same level of regulations as 11.319(a) No, 11.319(d) is not “at the same level as” part (a), it is a summary of the regulations found in 11.319(a). The table isnt regulation, it’s a summary comparison of the…

This is all very interesting, but the OP was asking about the future of Deck officers…

And we were discussing deck officers. I steered the course from OICEW back to OICNW many posts ago.

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Just keep in mind that the table is just a summary of the actual rules and that

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