[QUOTE=Steamer;159114]Yeah, right … then please tell us why the CG will not accept STCW courses taken outside the US? STCW is an international set of rules for an international industry and it is not too much of a stretch to imagine that there are schools outside the USA that deliver training equal or better than some CG approved schools.
I would love to hear the CG rationale for going along with the NI as the sole source of DP certification. I would also love to hear why that explanation does not apply to STCW training providers. If the CG demands a certificate then it is incumbent on the USCG to make sure training for that certificate is available and approved just like any other required course leading to a certificate.
If the NI can grab that kind of authority for training and the CG blesses the club, why shouldn’t that mariner’s association that popped up here not long ago looking for members be able to do the same thing? At least they are US based and the CG can actually see who and what they are.
I said it when they came up with the NI DP thing, it is a scam, a fraud, and a travesty that the CG even recognizes them and their certificates.[/QUOTE]
The USCG will not accept training certs from a non-US school [B]OR[/B] STCW assessments signed off by a mariner not holding/sailing on a USCG MMC. When asked why, it comes down to control. If a non-US school or non-US mariner pencil whips a cert or assessment, the USCG can’t do anything to them, i.e. suspend credential or school approval. They also can’t afford to visit/audit/approve the many schools outside the US either.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;159232]I do not think the NI, as a worldwide DP certification scheme can survive the loss of any major DP vessel operating market, or competition from any effective alternative.
As soon as the NMD announced its competing “better” DP certification scheme the “writing was on the wall” that the NI scheme is in big trouble. The NI would not survive the competition from both the NMD DP scheme and a bonafide new DP scheme in the US. That’s just my honest opinion.[/QUOTE]
Be careful what you wish for. If 3 or 12 organizations are created to do DP certs the price is likely to [I]increase[/I] as the number of customers for each organization [I]decreases[/I]. But given current DPO pay rates, it may be worth paying more to actually get good customer service. Hope we see a US DP certification organization very soon!