I do know John Rosatti personally and I know he does not judge people on what they have or what they don’t. c.Captain needs to take his anger and jealousy somewhere else. Sure, there are bigger toys on the ocean. A matter of fact, I saw Paul Allan’s Yacht cruise into the Bahamas’ to dock. Bill Gates has no ownership in Paul Allen’s yacht what so ever unless he recently invested in octopus. Bill Gate was partners with Paul Allan and owns a substantial amount of stock in Microsoft. Bill Gates I am sure flies in but he doesn’t own the yacht, from what I know. Most yacht owners purchase yachts because they can and because it offers complete privacy .
c.captain… wouldnt you rather ask a person who knows instead of assuming you know it all
I believe Paul Allan hired 10 ex navy seals for his yacht. I have seen them personally guard the yacht on wave runners
Warren Buffet and Bill Gates donate’s large amounts for tax purposes. There is a hidden agenda
[QUOTE=tvanp;43498]Warren Buffet and Bill Gates donate’s large amounts for tax purposes. There is a hidden agenda[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, I guess you could say that but anybody can save a considerable amount on taxes by giving to charity most of what they own.
What Buffet, Gates and others have done is beyond taking some old clothes down to the Goodwill or dropping a few dollars in the church collection plate, which is what makes it significant. Most billionaires don’t do this.
Personally I wonder if I would do the same if I had that kind of money. I asked that question aloud last Thanksgiving at dinner and discovered it would piss off one of my offspring and please the others. One of the darlings obviously got a bigger dose of my ex’s DNA than the others.
tenigneer
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Personally I wonder if I would do the same if I had that kind of money.[/QUOTE]
I can honestly say, without doubt, that I would give away substantial amounts of money… Strippers got to eat too.
I was planning to let this thread go and not post to it anymore, but I found this gem of an article online and simply have to lob it in (as always, the emphasis is mine)…fire in the hole!
Oct. 7, 2009 (Bloomberg) – The $3 billion worth of vessels anchored for sale in the Monaco harbor draw a grin from Monte Carlo Luxury Yachts broker George Fortune. (is that a name for a mega yacht broker or what!)
“Super yachts are a particularly male-driven thing,” he says, surveying the principality’s annual super-yacht show. “Somebody always has one bigger than yours,” the 55-year- old salesman explains from the bow of the $20 million jet-propelled Art Deco speedboat Musa. “This business is based on clients who care little about economic recessions and are passionate about proving that they have more money than you.”
There might be a load of statistics to prove the global economy is floundering on the shoals of catastrophe. Just don’t come spouting them aboard the 118-foot Musa, where all countertops are fossilized Carrera marble and the main salon is trimmed in snakeskin leather. The only number that matters here is a top speed of 100 miles per hour, allowing thermo-billionaires to breakfast in Italy, lunch in Corsica and order supper in Monte Carlo.
The rest of the article is just oozing with more juicy cuts such as:
“The super yacht,” Fortune says, “is a city state.”
Everybody is entitled to their opinions on this subject and I don’t want to start the slugging fest anew. For me this article brings the thread around full circle to the exact point where I started so I need not say anything more. It alone simply says all that is required…
Everybody is entitled to their opinions on this subject and I don’t want to start the slugging fest anew. For me this article brings the thread around full circle to the exact point where I started so I need not say anything more. It alone simply says all that is required…[/QUOTE]
I group this conspicuous consumption penis measuring bunch of yahoos with their brothers the $10,000 custom wheel rim guys.
Same mentality, different playground.
Both could be doing better things with their money, like supporting those poor strippers forced to lap dance their way thru college.
tengineer
The indulgence in these Toy’s,makes me wonder so many things,and without sounding like a sociolists, it truely seems, immoral.However, if I won the Lottery, I just wonder if I would be tempted to do the same. I would hope that I wouldn’t, but the temptation would still be there. But, I really would not fit in with that crowd,;,of which, even the thought of it,makes me wanna puke!! However, in all fairness, there are those, that set an example, and I have no problem , with their personal possesions.
Of the following, which is the better use of money.
Example A: Money spent that encourages people to become educated and earn a living designing, building and operating cutting edge equipment.
Example B: Money spent to encourage people to stand in line and be served at soup kitchens.
Which of those are more beneficial to society.
Would it seem less immoral if they spent $50 million to donate an F-16 to the Air Force or a shipload of land mines to the Army? The mines would probably be delivered on a FOC ship but that’s another thread.
I really would not fit in with that crowd,;,of which, even the thought of it,makes me wanna puke!!
It’s hard to say. Most of them are not so intolerant or prejudiced as to want to puke at the thought of people they don’t even know.
They buy yachts because they like to see and do things that are very difficult to do any other way. They tend to be bright intelligent curious people.
Economic issues versus morality issues will always be a circle conversation because it’s apple and oranges, but not really, since money in the economy, no matter how it’s spent - rims, cars, boats - simply put people to work and being self sufficient. If a few rich people get to do some penis measuring along the way, big deal. That started when we were still in caves and the end is no where in sight. Nothing new there. You see that on the commercial side as well…even this forum. It’s so common, it’s natural.
Some people just know how to make money, with money. If you have less to work with, you make less in the long run. If you give it away, you decrease capital while at the same time, making no return. If you use your capital to make more, it becomes an endless stream of revenue by constantly recapitalizing businesses. Sure, you can give away your net worth and feed hungry people for as long as the money lasts, but you can also keep a majority of your money - profiting,building, buying, and employing along the way - doing the same thing indirectly, but the difference is - the money never ends and society benefits more.
I have a $750 golf club, just one driver. What does that make me? I could have given $500 away and bought a cheaper club. You can split hairs all the way down to everything we own, and I don’t think it’s any different as far as morality by putting guilt on one yacht owner. We’re all guilty of the same thing if you want to go that route. If you try to determine a level of guilt based on amount of money, you’re simply trying to justify your own guilt.
sorry that the link to the article didn’t work if you tried it. I fixed it on my last posting or you can just click on it here: Billionaires Buy Bragging Rights With Giant Super Yachts
gotta go take another Pepto Bismol to keep the bile down!
see you in the funny papers…
[QUOTE=cmakin;43535]Which of those are more beneficial to society.[/QUOTE]
[B][I]Benificial ? …[/I] like Beauty, is in the eye of the beerholder.[/B]
Good points, on paper, Anchorman,I strive to set an example, to my son, to ‘‘Pay it forward’’,note the word strive, as it is a constant, conscientous effort, on my part,and You’re right,its very hyopocritical to pass judgement, however, with experience, one can come to their own concensis,[QUOTE=anchorman;43537]Economic issues versus morality issues will always be a circle conversation because it’s apple and oranges, but not really, since money in the economy, no matter how it’s spent - rims, cars, boats - simply put people to work and being self sufficient. If a few rich people get to do some penis measuring along the way, big deal. That started when we were still in caves and the end is no where in sight. Nothing new there. You see that on the commercial side as well…even this forum. It’s so common, it’s natural.
Some people just know how to make money, with money. If you have less to work with, you make less in the long run. If you give it away, you decrease capital while at the same time, making no return. If you use your capital to make more, it becomes an endless stream of revenue by constantly recapitalizing businesses. Sure, you can give away your net worth and feed hungry people for as long as the money lasts, but you can also keep a majority of your money - profiting,building, buying, and employing along the way - doing the same thing indirectly, but the difference is - the money never ends and society benefits more.
I have a $750 golf club, just one driver. What does that make me? I could have given $500 away and bought a cheaper club. You can split hairs all the way down to everything we own, and I don’t think it’s any different as far as morality by putting guilt on one yacht owner. We’re all guilty of the same thing if you want to go that route. If you try to determine a level of guilt based on amount of money, you’re simply trying to justify your own guilt.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=anchorman;43537]I have a $750 golf club, just one driver. What does that make me? I could have given $500 away and bought a cheaper club. You can split hairs all the way down to everything we own[/QUOTE]
“it’s all good” providing it makes you a better “duffer”…at least in your own mind!!
wow never thought i would get so many replies my post must have been good ha ha
[QUOTE=tvanp;43577]wow never thought i would get so many replies my post must have been good ha ha[/QUOTE]
[B]Yeah, sometimes there is not enough time in day to keep up with some of the “dirrahea of the fingers.” [/B]
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[B]I’m making fun, but no harm intended. Coinsidentally, where has Capt. A… been? lol[/B]