MMR for enlisted?

Is it possible for a hawsepiper to get a commission in the MMR?

Is there some sort of enlisted portion of the MMR?

Anyone have any experience with trying to be in the regular reserves(i.e. Navy, Army etc) while dealing with sea rotation schedules?

Are you thinking of the “Merchant Marine Reserves?” That would consist of the guys who are off work, at home, nursing a three day bender. You get to be in this MMR whichever rank, class, or department you are in.

Alternately, you return to work, at the end of your vacation and attend ‘Seahab’ to give your liver a break, and get a little R&R for your sanity!

But seriously, where/ what have you found that indicates a MMR?

BRILLIANT!

Seahab = Duty Days in Navyspeak

[QUOTE=cappy208;48976]Are you thinking of the “Merchant Marine Reserves?” That would consist of the guys who are off work, at home, nursing a three day bender. You get to be in this MMR whichever rank, class, or department you are in.

Alternately, you return to work, at the end of your vacation and attend ‘Seahab’ to give your liver a break, and get a little R&R for your sanity!

But seriously, where/ what have you found that indicates a MMR?[/QUOTE]

Ya the Merchant Marine Reserves. I was under the impression it was some sort of reserve organization similar to Navy reserves. Everything I’m reading says that if you get a 3rd A/E for example from an Academy you can get a commission as an officer. I will be getting my 3rd the hard way and almost let a Army Reserve recruiter talk me into signing up last week. I really want to continue to be in some kind of reserves but now that I have my MMD and looking for work I’m just not sure how its going to be possible to do a weekend a month. I know some MSC ships have it where you can drill onboard for USNR but what about every other sailor who trys to be a reservist?

You re confusing the graduation from a maritime academy, and the commission a graduate receives upon graduating in the USN ®. (Not MMR) Not every graduate receives a commission from the Navy. Some opt to get a commission in the Marines, Army, or USCG. I have not heard of any, but I am sure an Air Force commission would be available too. Some either don’t get offered, or don’t accept a commission. Maybe less than stellar GPA, Class rank, or discipline record?

A person (like you) who simply goes through the hard work and gets a 3rds does NOT qualify, or get offered a Commission in the reserves of any kind. You CAN apply on your own, but I doubt there is a mechanism to go into, except officers corps, and a several year stint in active first. In light of the last dozen years, I would think you would be aware that the Reserves ESPECIALLY the ARMY reserves are the ones doing the brunt of the fighting in the middle east… You were going to sign up in the Army reserves? What were you thinking??? If they call you up, you’re going to fight, not ride on a ship!

I would jump at the chance to do another deployment. The thought of getting sent to Afghanistan for a year is what I like about it, I’ve got my whole career to ride on a ship. So does anyone know of any programs for regular enlisted reservists who work in the maritime industry?

I don’t know of anything specific, but Army Corps of Engineeers might have something you’d be interested in.

As far as I understand it, you can still join MMR as long as your under 26. You just go to a three week fork and knife school in SD and they hand you your commision as soon as you walk through the door. Contact the USN officer recruiter in your recruiting district, they should be framiliar with the program and the min. qualifications. The enlisted recruiter probably won’t be.

The Teacher I had for Rules of the road was 32 (1991)when he went through the academy. To old to do the MMR and get SIP but he worked it out with the commander at the time that if he did all of the drills and physical fitness the commander would do all of the paper work to get him commissioned, I guess recruiters don’t get near as much $ for merchant mariners compared to the common recruitees, and there is a lot more paper work. He is a registered pilot on the Great lakes and does various training throughout the year. Just 3 weeks ago he was gone for a week to go to San Diego to requal for fire arms. In the past he has flown over to the middle east and spent a month docking carriers and stuff.

There is another Cadet who is 35 and is working on getting a direct commission into the reserves. massive amounts of paperwork is all he told me. he is still waiting to hear from them.

i pulled this off Wikipedia

The U.S. Navy Reserve Direct Commissioning Program allows university-educated professionals, between ages 19 to 35 (or older, in some cases), the opportunity to be appointed as an officer in the Navy Reserve. Most DCOs hold advanced degrees (MAs, MBAs, JDs, MDs, DOs, PharmDs and Ph.Ds.) and/or significant civilian work experience. In recent years, the number of direct commissions offered by the Navy Reserve has increased due to the need for skilled officers to serve as Individual Agumentees (IAs) in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Direct Commissioning Program serves the expanded needs of the Navy in certain officer skill areas listed below in alphabetical order by category:
Unrestricted Line Officer

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[li]Special Warfare Officer[/li][/ul]
Restricted Line Officer (including Special Duty Officer)

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[li]Aerospace Engineering Duty Officer (AEDO)[/li][LIST]
[li]NOTE: Unlike AEDOs in the Regular Navy, who must first be qualified Naval Aviators or Naval Flight Officers with at least 5 years operational flying experience in naval aircraft, direct commission AEDOs in the Navy Reserve are not required to have any military flight experience[/li][/ul]

[li]Aerospace Maintenance Duty Officer (AMDO)[/li][li]Engineering Duty Officer[/li][li]Foreign area officer (Country or Regional Specialists, Non-Intelligence)[/li][li]Human Resources Officer[/li][li]Information Professional (typically, personnel have Computer Science degrees and extensive industry experience)[/li][li]Information Warfare Officer (formerly Cryptology Officer)[/li][li]Intelligence Officer[/li][li]Merchant Marine Officer[/li][li]Meteorology/Oceanography Officer (METOC)[/li][li]Public Affairs Officer[/li][/LIST]

just my 2 cents.

My understanding is that it is part of the USNR specifically for maritime academy graduates. I do know that when I got out of KP, it was an option for my class, but later became mandatory (many of us went with the “inactive reserve” USNR commission). I did find a link on the Maine Maritime Academy website about the MMR program:

http://www.mainemaritime.edu/academics/Wc9c3128736e3e.htm

Here is what SUNY Maritime has:

http://www.sunymaritime.edu/NROTC/Future%20Students/MMR.aspx

And Texas

http://www.tamug.edu/rotc/scholarships_sip.htm

And my alma mater:

http://www.usmma.edu/admissions/facts/serviceobligation.shtml

It looks as though there are no provisions for enlisted MMR personnel. I could be wrong, though.

[QUOTE=CMA_Decky;49002]As far as I understand it, you can still join MMR as long as your under 26. [/QUOTE]

I’m 31 unfortunately.

[QUOTE=GLMASailor;49003]The Teacher I had for Rules of the road was 32 (1991)when he went through the academy. To old to do the MMR and get SIP but he worked it out with the commander at the time that if he did all of the drills and physical fitness the commander would do all of the paper work to get him commissioned, I guess recruiters don’t get near as much $ for merchant mariners compared to the common recruitees, and there is a lot more paper work. He is a registered pilot on the Great lakes and does various training throughout the year. Just 3 weeks ago he was gone for a week to go to San Diego to requal for fire arms. In the past he has flown over to the middle east and spent a month docking carriers and stuff.

There is another Cadet who is 35 and is working on getting a direct commission into the reserves. massive amounts of paperwork is all he told me. he is still waiting to hear from them.

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I understand most of all these type programs but my issue is that I dont have a University or 4 year degree so I can never be “commissioned”. I need a reserve program for enlisted that can deal with sea schedules. Thanks for you input though.

[QUOTE=cmakin;49012]My understanding is that it is part of the USNR specifically for maritime academy graduates…[/QUOTE]

I have been out of the MMR program a long time (when and because I stopped sailing, I’m still trying to figure out the reasoning of a “reserve” that could be used to man ships in an emergency, that consists solely of people who are manning ships already…) My understanding is that the MMR program is now open to anyone holding a 500 GRT or greater license (subject to the age and other restrictions noted alrteady).

Look into the Army as well, they may have a similar reserve program for warrant officers/watercraft operators.

[QUOTE=jdcavo;49047] I’m still trying to figure out the reasoning of a “reserve” that could be used to man ships in an emergency, that consists solely of people who are manning ships already…)
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Glad I wasn’t the only one confused about that logic. I had just had a conversation about that last week but we came to the conclusion that maybe they mean to take all the reservist mariners on civilian ships on put them on warships if needed??

[QUOTE=jdcavo;49047] Look into the Army as well, they may have a similar reserve program for warrant officers/watercraft operators. [/QUOTE]

The army was the one I was just talking to but I would have to be able to make it to drills once a month. Not a likely thing to be able to promise working as a mariner…

There was an instructor at MMA a few years back who was a reservist in the Army as a CWO and ran watercraft for them. They may be understanding of sea schedules if they want experienced reservists.