[QUOTE=neutrino78x;173696] … but I haven’t done any of that stuff since 2003. [/QUOTE]
MSC requires documented experience from the past 5 years. If you have done nothing since 2003 your only area of opportunity is within the Supply Department as a Supply Utilityman (SU).
Wait for an opening and apply. But keep in mind that to be allowed to submit an application…followed by months of waiting and a likely denial letter your first time out… you’ll still need a current Passport, TWIC and MMC. Those documents take time and money. The SU announcements will probably be opening very soon. It will only open for ten days. If you miss the window you’ll be out of luck for another 12 - 18 months or more.
I don’t think I have ever heard of a more convoluted process for hiring.
I’ve met lots of MSC guys in classes. From what I hear its hard to get off on time because they are short handed, and they always need people. One would think they would make it a little easier to get new blood considering.
Deckape has summed up the MSC application process succinctly with “fire and forget”. I got an offer for the OS advancement program nearly 6 months after I applied. During that time I had all ready taken a job with a local company, and my circumstances changed. Had I been offered the OS job when I applied I would have taken it.
the MSC representative I talked with told me that it is common for qualified mariners to find jobs in the interim.
My qualifications at the time I applied were as follows: 100 ton near coastal master (which I was sailing on) radar observer, basic safety training, lifeboatman/PSC, and AB. I also have a valid passport, TWIC, and an unrelated four year degree. seems a bit overqualified, right? Wrong. this is the type of applicant you are up against for an entry level job.
You will decrease your chances of getting hired anywhere at any job, if you posses only the minimum qualifications. Show some initiative all ready. Get out of your own way. Stop waiting on the government. Get your entry level credentials, OS, Wiper, Steward (FH). Get STCW Basic Training. Add some merit badges to that sash, Boy Scout.
Or continue to wait for a magical fairy godmother to pay for training and cut you a check at the same time.
Getting a job with MSC is not easy. The application process is insane. Dont apply thinking you will have a job in a month. I have talked to different people and have got so much conlifting information it is ridiculous. Even emails from MSC telling me to do one thing then the complete opposite. I have just put in for my security clearance online and that was a nightmare to. You need extreme patience to go through the process. I am just glad I have a job and have all the time in the world if they want to hire me. Definitely do not wait for MSC if you need a job. Find something else and then if they call great.
[QUOTE=Ea$y Money;166409]Have you asked them how they feel about that? Lol, sorry, couldn’t resist.
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So the bridge officers make millions then?[/QUOTE]
Having worked at MSC after coming from the GOM (OSV’s, MODU/Semi’s/Drill ships), an AB would be hard pressed to break 100k. 3rd AE can make 100k pretty easily. Typical is 4 months on, 2 months off. MSC is VERY generous with training and will send you to a PIC class, and lots and lots of other classes (lifeboatman, basic/adv FF, BST, etc) and pay not only for your class, but also the hotel, AND pay you your base salary. MSC ships are ALL Unltd HP/Tonnage, and unlike working on a drill ship in the GOM, you do not kill yourself for 28 days. The work pace is significantly easier than a platform or drillship as MSC ships have much bigger crews both in deck and engine.
The hiring process took approximately 2 months for me, but I am an Unlimited engineer. MSC has a Fast Track program for the billets/rates they are looking for. Engineers are almost always fast tracked, as are deck officers. Ordinaries, AB’s, Steward Utility, and other entry level ratings… rarely fast tracked for hire. Bear in mind also that ALL MSC ships are Unlimited HP/Tonnage, so if you have an AB Limited ticket, you will be hired as an Ordinary at MSC. If you have a DDE Unlimited, you will be hired as a QMED if you have the QMED endorsement(s); without the QMED(s) endorsements, a DDE Unlimited will be hired as a wiper or Deck Engine Utility. A trip to the MSC website will reveal what positions they are currently hiring for and if they are fast track positions.
My guess: a young sailor on liberty in a foreign port parties hard, has a few drinks in a hotel room, has a few more and ends up aspirating his own vomit. Wouldn’t be the first time. Won’t be the last, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=DeckApe;183985]My guess: a young sailor on liberty in a foreign port parties hard, has a few drinks in a hotel room, has a few more and ends up aspirating his own vomit. Wouldn’t be the first time. Won’t be the last, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
I’m hearing two men. One was identified but the other name isn’t out yet. (And if anyone knows, hold off)
MANAMA, Bahrain — Two Navy civilians died last week in non-combat-related incidents, the Department of Defense announced Monday.
Marcus D. Prince, 22, of Norfolk, Va., died April 26 in Juffair, Bahrain. Michael M. Baptiste, 60, of Brooklyn, N.Y., died April 28 in Juffair, Bahrain.
The circumstances surrounding the deaths are not related, a 5th Fleet official said Monday.
Prince, a merchant marine assigned to the USNS Pecos, was found dead in a hotel room during a port call, the official said. His death is under investigation, though no foul play is suspected, the official said. USNS Pecos is a replenishment oiler.
Baptiste was a marine surveyor assigned to Forward Deployed Regional Maintenance Center Detachment Bahrain at Naval Support Activity Bahrain. The unit’s mission is to provide engineering and technical services for maintenance and modernization of naval ships and craft in the Fifth Fleet area of responsibility.
Baptiste also served 24 years in the Navy and reached the rank of chief petty officer. During his time served, he received various awards including the Kuwait Liberation medal, a medal authorized by the Government of Kuwait to members of the U.S. military who participated in Operations Desert Shield, Desert Storm and the Liberation of Kuwait.
Naval Sea Systems Command Public Affairs said no further details about Baptiste were available Monday.
"Our condolences go out to both the families of these shipmates at this time,” the 5th Fleet official said.
Without knowing too many details, I can say with first hand knowledge that being a surveyor at 60 can present some physical difficulties. Condolences for both.
[QUOTE=Worldmariner;183928] … … so if you have an AB Limited ticket, you will be hired as an Ordinary at MSC. …[/QUOTE]ABs unlimited or otherwise, as well as former Navy BMs are hired as ABs. The only ABs hired as OSs are those that decide to apply for that position, which could happen when there are no AB openings. It happens but rarely. Even then, any one of them could ask to sail as an AB…and would immediately get their wish. Ask me how I know.
MSC is feast or famine, like the GOM, but for different reasons of course. Keep your hand in, you never know when they’ll call. It’s the nature of a lot of this business until you find you happy place (if you’re lucky).
Lots of conflicting info on this forum. I have been following MSC for 6 years. I have seen an opening for SU only maybe once! Never seen Wiper/OS openings, ever. I let my MMC card expire and wondering if i should renew again. Hence, the reason why i just joined this forum. MSC [B]require’s[/B] 6 months of sea-time experience to be qualified. Whats the next step? maritimetrainingschool.com offers many courses related to MSC jobs. Which lessons are the most beneficial in the long run and what lessons/certs are good to have to land a good job in the private sector? Which are the good companies too be working for?
Don’t want to go through the process/fee’s again of getting my MMC, TWIC etc. and paying thousands of dollars for lessons, when there are no jobs lined up.
