Mariner Pay 2023

Anyone care to share what the crews working for Crowley Alaska made this summer? The tugs delivering fuel/etc. to towns up in Western Alaska, Bristol Bay, etc.?

Just off the street or mommy’s tit, new hires. No credentials necessary, no experience outside, no balls. ACBL didn’t even send our newest new guy to the fleet for training, they just dropped him off at a lock.

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MSC 2nd Mate, worked 9 months straight on tankers with 2 months paid leave this year. 191k gross pay. Things are pretty bad at MSC crewing wise, so I was wearing a lot of hats and ended up almost 3 months overdue. Pay varies quite a bit, based on horsepower and tonnage. Tanker base is at 116k with a 65/hr OT rate. Guaranteed 32hrs OT for weekends, most of my pay periods were 65-80hr OT. Over due pay is $25/day until day 45 then its $50/day.

If you can handle the bullshit, they’re offering the highest signing bonuses I’ve seen. The schedule sucks and will continue to suck until people are driven back by a crash.

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I think we discussed the Crowley Western Alaska - Local 5049 (as I recall) pay last spring.

Pay is on the low side for most guys, but better for long term employees who get a month or more of paid vacation and 11 paid holidays.

I didn’t see much of the Crowley boats last season, so I don’t know if they got an extra bump or not.

I’d like to hear what their 2023 pay is.



New CBA with Kirby Offshore and the RTBU side

7%-7%-7% across the board next 3 yrs.
Company paying medical, dental, vision premiums, added 2 holidays.

People hired before 2012 still get the sweeter longevity pay

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Sure beats the longevity pay with this GOM company I just hired on with!!! I like the 7% also. This company only gives pay raises when too many people quit…

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How many kirby vessels are under the rtbu contract?

Is the company paying the benefits for the employee’s dependents as well?

Excellent post.

All of the maritime union contracts should be posted on gCaptain for everyone to see. This benefits all mariners.

No secrets. No misinformation. No bullshit.

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Curtin has been advertising $900 a day Captain jobs for dredging projects on the West Coast and in Houston. That is top money. They must have a long line at the door. Online application, but there is no response.

I’ve never gotten any response from HR to online applications at any company. A couple of times I’ve gotten calls from port captains trying to crew a boat six months later.

If you are thinking about doing the Curtin online application for one of those $900 a day jobs, think again. You would be better off buying a lottery ticket. It’s less time consuming and more likely to yield good results.

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Roughly 16-18 ATB’s along with a couple wire boats. There’s also a couple stand alone manned barges.
The SIU side is about half that. Don’t have the SIU wages handy, but at the end of this contract both side will be even more or less

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Jackson Offshore

Masters : $950
Relief : $900 ish
Night capt : $875

Mate w/ DP : $650
Mate wo/ DP : $515

AB: $375
OS : not sure

C/E :$950 ish
Relief C/E : $900 ish
Night ENG : $875 ish

  • Most boats 28/14 with some wheelhouse being 14/14
  • good WI-FI (service Offshore is good enough that you rarely even need to use boat Wi-Fi)
  • no travel pay (unless crew changes get moved up or back then office pays difference for flights)
  • office covers hotel costs for crew change
  • office pays for renewal classes
  • 401k is 4% match if you contribute 5%
  • has holiday pay (double pay) for Christmas and maybe Thanksgiving (no other bonuses)
  • for crew change everyone meets at office and takes carry all down to Fourchon
  • standard healthcare costs and benefits
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Does Jackson require unlimited licenses?

The OSVs do. They have a couple crewboats also. The pay rates above are for the OSVs.

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Another subject for discussion: salary. At Coastal Transportation officers with over a year of employment can choose to go on salary rather than stay on daily pay. Do many companies have similar programs?

The differences between daily pay and salary at CTI:

Daily pay people get paid every two weeks, roughly within the time period in which they sail. When they don’t sail they don’t get paid. They can claim unemployment between voyages, (unless they turn down a voyage they are scheduled for). For some people unemployment can make up 10% of their annual gross.

But not everyone can get on unemployment. The state decides who can and can’t, and there are enough differences in personal circumstances that it isn’t a sure thing. Some people always get it between trips. Some people are disallowed completely.

Salaried people get paid the same amount every two weeks regardless of when they sail. Like all CTI mariners they are scheduled a year ahead of time, so they know how many voyages/days they will sail, and when. A typical agreement is for 150 sailing days.

The salary is basically the number of days that they are scheduled to sail times their salary rate. Their salary pay rate is their daily pay rate + 5%. They can’t claim unemployment; that’s what the extra 5% is for, to compensate them for the lack of unemployment benefits—which they might not have gotten anyway.

If a salaried person sails more than their target days they are paid day-for- day for each extra day. If they sail up to ten days less than their target days no change is made to their pay.

Sail less than that ( in other words sail 11 or more days less than the agreement) their remaining salary is reduced a half-day for each day they fall short of their target. But that doesn’t happen very often because HR tracks their sailing days. Come Fall, if the mariner is falling seriously short of sailing days (more than ten days) they are scheduled on a half-voyage (12 days) to rectify things.

Most officers choose to be on salary because it gives them peace of mind. Their pay is stable. The accuracy of their scheduling re: target days is usually about 3 days. It’s rare for an officer to go off the salary program after going on it, though they can choose to do so at any time.

Oddly, this satisfaction is not the case with unlicensed crew members. The company is reluctant to offer salaries to ABs, cooks, etc. because over the years most unlicensed people who go on salary ask to get off of it before the year is up. Why the difference from officers? Unknown.

Anyway, do other companies have similar salary programs?

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Jackson does not require unlimited licenses. Have plenty of AB OSV and Limited. For wheelhouse, there are some Unlimited guys but only 1600 ton 6000 ITC needed.

Side note AB pay for crewboat and OSV’s are the same

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I would think the engineers are unlimited. Trade restricted osv tickets can work, but unlimited.

Most of the older guys just have Chief OSV and the younger guys are mostly academy grads with unlimited. Majority have Chief OSV

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Some union companies have the ATO pay scheme, which is the closest thing to salary. Kinda.

I for one would love to be on salary. Makes budgeting money easier. Doing 28/28, sometimes you miss a check and have to catch up on insurance premiums.

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I’ll just leave this here. Why would anybody work for the tug pay listed in this thread?

Buc-ees pay

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Working on boats in Alaska especially fall and winter is a full contact sport.

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