https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2025/ineffective-bridge-resource-management-distraction-contributed-boxships-collision-leeuwin Just as I predicted. Pilot forgot to give helm order to turn ship as normal …and nobody noticed.

That must have been a difficult read for you Jug. Interesting to note she is currently inbound to Fremantle.

It was a difficult read for me as a former Pilot who regularly handled ships of that type and size. The report seems to me to be a good one and covers just about everything. Just a note from my point of view. I was one of our initial team of Ultra Large ship pilots and had to make the procedures …

I’m navy trained. I never gave a helm order without also observing the rudder indicator in response. Nobody ever did. That was a strictly enforced standard particularly as the helm was rarely on the bridge in sight of the officers. It seems there’s a total uninterest in monitoring the rudder thr…

The very simple answer to your question Jug is yes. Everything else in your post above I totally agree with. Apart from the bit about being Navy Trained which most Pilots are not. :winking_face_with_tongue:

[image] Jughead: Do pilots monitor the rudder indicator as I’ve described above? Yes, absolutely. That’s a very basic requirement for anyone who has the con. I think it’s pretty clear that the helm order was never explicitly given. To me, the real lesson here is task over-saturation for th…

I find inescapable similarities (in principle) with the Manawanui grounding, On which the RNZN did a presser today - Big changes to Navy after Manawanui sinking as court martial decision looms - NZ Herald - Poor BRM, whether manifesting as :- “Autopilot” (without proper input or control) or “Helm…

[image] Not only the second pilot but also both the captain and the C/M had a clear view of the rudder angle indicator and of the helmsman.

This entire sh.tshow is an embarrassment to our overall and collective profession. Everything is wrong about it.

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