Is there a deck officer shortage?

I love sailing, even if I never sail as c/m or captain. I love having half the year off to do whatever I want. Those 75 day hitches fly by for me since all I do is work, sleep, and jerk off. I don’t even mind the 14-16 hour days that sometimes come with working on a tanker.

You would have to put a gun to my head before I’d give up my lifestyle to go wagecuck at a 9 to 5

Not my words. But I laugh every time I read it…

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time in the bathroom.
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then make them pay your bills, arrange your travel and answer all your
phone calls.
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unit conversions in response to the question “Can you give me that in
something I can use??” …do this one every hour.
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meeting to listen to someone tell you what you did all day. Bonus points
for reiterating statements multiple times (i.e. “Like Joe says safety
is…”).
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off at the town council meeting.
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250miles offshore. Once the lightbulb comes on spend at least one hour
answering questions like “Well why do you have a tide table book if it’s
useless?”, “Can’t you get the computer to tell you?” and “Don’t you have
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pots and dishes off the counter. Yell at the wife and kids for not
having the kitchen “stowed for sea.”

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There are plenty of jobs out here, and they aren’t going away anytime soon if you have the credentials.
Sailor51 nailed it:
PIC DL
TOAR
DP
You will always find work with a PIC DL
Officer shortages have become a real problem since COVID and won’t be slowing down in the next 5-10 yrs.
Shipping on box boats, not so much.
Good luck to you

Right, I understand that and am cool with it. I’d rather be up on deck doing that than down in the engine room.

To beat a dead horse, going to sea gets old. Well, the being gone part does once you develop a family life at home. It gets really hard to leave when you’re leaving more than an empty house.

I did exactly what you’re talking about. I sailed deep sea globally for 7 years, then I transitioned to coastal work on 21/21 or 28/28 schedule, and now I’ve found a really fun job that has me home every night while still getting to drive tugs and work the waterfront.

Some really good advice people have responded with. Get as many endorsements as you can early on, especially if you don’t know what you want to do. One of my regrets is not buckling down and upgrading my license sooner.

The industry might have an artificial shortage of officers at the moment. Take advantage of that and really think about where you want to work, and on what type of vessels. If you land somewhere you don’t like, switch it up. Now is the time to get the experience and figure out what works for you. By the time jobs start getting tight again, hopefully you’re at the place you want to be.

If you want to be a pilot, I recommend looking for ship assist work in the port you want to do it in. Start looking at the associations requirements. Its not what you’d think it is. A lot of places you can get in there with master limited or towing time. Hopper Dredging is also a good way to get the ship handling skills and pilotage time.

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Awesome advice, thank you.

Yeah I plan to get whatever endorsements I can get at A&M. I’m pretty sure they offer all of them,

My initial goal once I get the license is I want to go deep sea on container ships and tankers. See how long I can make that happen depending on how reality sets in as far as leaving a family at home like you say. I’d really like it to make it to master but anything can happen.

I’d love to come inshore and run tug boats on that 28/28 schedule if I ever want to come inshore. I do understand that starting on a tug even with an unlimited officer license means starting toward the bottom of the chain.

As I said though, I think my real end goal on the deck route is to be a pilot. I live just southeast of Houston, so down here I have the port of Houston pilots and the port of Galveston pilots. I know for Houston, they require at least at 2M unlimited with 6 years sea going experience, and something about harbor assist (I’m assuming this is what you mentioned about doing assist work on ships).

I can’t find any information on what’s required with Galveston pilots.

If you do go on tugs don’t sell yourself short and seek out a tug 2nd mate position or a training mate position. You don’t necessarily have to start out as an AB depending on the company.

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This is easy to say while you’re young. If you find a partner who can handle it great but being 50 years old and single, spending 1/2 the year working and jerking off is a miserable life. While everyone else has a family, you’ll be wondering where it all went wrong.

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Get going now on the pilot connections. As much a networking requirement as sailing.

They generally want you young and with a big license/meaningful experience.

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Does this mean hanging out at the pilot station or…?

Interestingly enough, one of the guys I currently work with… One of his family friends is a master in the merchant marine, and his dad is a Houston pilot. Both went to Texas A&M.

I do plan to talk to him but having other connections in the pilot world would be good too. I talked to a Matagorda pilot that I ran into one time when I was like 17 fishing down his way. He showed me around the pilot boat and stuff, very cool guy! Also an A&M graduate. I have him on instagram actually.

The pilot association has dinners where prospective pilots can insurance interact with the pilots and schmooze. See if your coworkers dad can get your invited. Getting in is largely a popularity contest so be likeable.

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This past Galtex election round, they made 2 pilots from the 91 they invited to interview. They had the two before the interviews started, just was a formality.

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Recently job posting where I work were:
C/E
1/AE
2/AE
3/AE
QMED
3/M w/DP basic
AB
Crane Operator

The industry has a need for people, not only officers. Eng Dept has been on high demand, constantly.

As for pilotage I was lucky enough to go in and out of a bay that in my time off did the required “in & outs” shadowing other pilots. Now the hard part begins drawing the chart before the ATT letter expires, get the endorsement, getting into the pilot association and can you actually do the job.

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This is why a lot of union mariners prefer shipping off the board. It allows more flexibility as to when and how long one ships depending on what stage of a relationship one is in.

For example taking night jobs, short relief trips or staying coastwise when just starting to date someone. Taking summers off to be with the kids,Or a long voyage when you spouse/partner is getting tired of your bs,

Good point. Working 28/28 or 60/60 can make it hard to meet someone and connect before you’re off.

3-4 months off at a time, then maybe 60 away, before doing a longer 90-120 hitch while meeting someone would definitely be better.

Nothing better than meeting someone and telling them hey in a 4 days I’ll be gone for 2 months just wait for me until then!

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Damn lots of engineers needed. That’s crazy.

Where are you working that there isn’t a shortage of licensed deck officers? Everywhere I’ve seen or heard of has a shortage right now.

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Haha yeah I completely agree. If you don’t want to get dirty DO NOT come out here.

Your post should be shortage of engine officers.

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Well, that would be telling.

I see it this way: If vessels are able to leave the dock, contracts are not being lost due to manning issues and we are able to get a relief on crew change day…how is there a shortage other than in peoples own minds?

If there were, there would be boats tied up, lost contracts, company’s scalping one another for their employees, hiring bonuses, pay increases. I don’t see any of that happening and probably not anytime soon.

If companies are unable to attract talent to their own individual sector that’s simply a “them” problem, an economics issue for them to solve, not necessarily a problem for the industry as a whole.

The worst case scenario honestly, is we may be asked to work over from time to time.
There are almost always several others who are more than willing to do just that for extra cash.
We can just as easily decline and still go home nine times in ten because there’s always someone who needs it.
Most companies like to keep a deficit of crew, it saves them money on insurance premiums.

So again, if there is a shortage? In what sector, at what companies? I’m not seeing it here.
Maybe in the Union, perhaps on ships? Is it on ATB’s moving oil where they wring out every ounce they can from their guys and they aren’t getting compensated nearly enough for putting their license and health on the line pumping cargo and then being a mindless “Buoy Mate” the other 90% of the time?

There’s not a shortage of warm bodied officers here, we really do have enough. Literally people lined up applying for senior positions that rarely open up because everyone is so comfortable.

1500 newly minted officers have been thrown into the mix, (see link posted by Mr.Cavo) further diluting the talent pool with inexperienced mariners and further devaluing our licenses. They won’t stop pumping them out anytime soon either.

There’s a glaringly obvious shortage of experience, competency and skill but not Mariners, at least from my perspective.

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