Exam for First Class Pilot?

Anyone know the exam modules you have to take of you.hold a 1600 gt master NC and Master of towing NC? I know about the local knowledge part.

I drew the charts and took the local knowledge test only, no test modules. That was 20 years ago, don’t know if it has changed or not.

K.C.

See section 4.6 First Class Pilots.

http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/training/deck_and_engineering_guide.pdf

That was confusing me because the original issue said for NMT 1600gt. What if you are sitting for higher?

I sat the FCP just under two years ago in Miami and went in with an Master Any Gross Tons - Inland. I drew the chart and local knowledge. You really aren’t sitting for a higher license yer pursuing an endorsement TO your license, hence the need to take modules. Acquire the endorsement, work on it for a year and if yer savvy enough with scheduling you ought be able to pull off the AGT - Inland with minimal testing effort

So as an endorsement to my current license it would be restricted to 1600gt?

No, it is still first class pilot. Some river pilots run with no license other than FCP.

I would be prepared for a rules of the road test as well.

I think the tonnage requirements vary state by state, and Pilot associations have their own requirements. For example, Puget Sound Pilots require a 1600 Master lic. minimum, and I know more than a few pilots here who do not have unlimited licenses- many of them come from tugs.

I got ya, I was just trying to figure out the other modules other than rules. I took most of these 2 years ago. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to retake.

As far as I know all it is is local knowledge and drawing the charts. If you haven’t taken a rules test in a while (>1 year) then you take rules also.

It changed a couple years ago.

Now you have to do a limited nav plot some terrestrial questions, ROR, and the local knowledge and chart sketch.

It appears that if you have drawn within a year they will let the nav and terrestrial go. But if older than a year you have to do it again.

That would be ideal!

The FCP test on the Great Lakes also had a lights test. Had to memorize all the light characteristics for all the major light houses etc and place them on the charts I drew.

Of course ALL of these questions would be answered by simply requesting evaluation.

I always thought of that as part of the chart. Though, I do recall that as a question. They specifically wanted it in the order as they appeared in the light list. Sometimes that doesn’t make sense, since most often they aren’t passed in that order exactly.

And paying $100 for the privilege…

[QUOTE=cappy208;66556]I always thought of that as part of the chart. Though, I do recall that as a question. They specifically wanted it in the order as they appeared in the light list. Sometimes that doesn’t make sense, since most often they aren’t passed in that order exactly.[/QUOTE]

I was required to do that as well. A separate piece(s) of paper listing ALL lighted aids and their characteristics - it eliminated the need to clutter the drawing with those details. That is to say on the drawing you’d see “24” and the paper would include Fl R 2s.

It aggravates me that you can’t get that information out if the NMC without applying first.

[QUOTE=cappy208;66556]I always thought of that as part of the chart. Though, I do recall that as a question. They specifically wanted it in the order as they appeared in the light list. Sometimes that doesn’t make sense, since most often they aren’t passed in that order exactly.[/QUOTE] It was scored as a separate module though. You got a point off if you wrote a light characteristic as Fl 6s rather than Fl W 6s. Even though the Light List doesn’t use an abbreviation for white.
I failed local knowledge on Lake Erie the first time by one question. They asked me what the height of the bridge at Tonawanda was. I had no idea since that’s on the Black Rock Canal which is a separate waterway requiring a separate endorsement and test. I tried to protest it, but the woman at the REC told me Its in the Lake Erie Chapter of coast Pilot". Stupid so and so.

[QUOTE=cappy208;66556]I always thought of that as part of the chart. Though, I do recall that as a question. They specifically wanted it in the order as they appeared in the light list. Sometimes that doesn’t make sense, since most often they aren’t passed in that order exactly.[/QUOTE]

It makes sense if you’re the person scoring the test. Makes it quick to check, just compare to the light list. I was required to turn in a light list as well but I also put the characteristics on the chart. It didn’t occur to me to just put the number on the chart. It would have been neater which I think was what they were looking for.

K.C.