<strong>Guest:</strong>
Just a few thoughts concerning the oh-so-eloquent and well-put responses to my accusations against the State Maritime schools…actually moreso the dumbasses who tried to “argue” this point with a semblance of logic or class.
“also you dont always get 5 days in port, its usually 4” - Really? Does that refute the idea that you guys get too much time in port to be realistic?
“and you have watch and work sections so at MOST you had 3 days” -Still more than any container/RoRo/tanker that I have heard of, and who is to say that we dont work in port as well? What kind of work could it be? Cargo ops? Oh no - wait! All of the “cargo” is charging ashore and getting drunk…not that there is anything wrong with that…seriously.
“Also pray you didn’t get ED for some mundane slip that you made and have to work extra in port.” -Probably not half as bad as having a C/M who likes to have you working all of your time in port, and can easily restrict you to the ship. Let’s also not talk about bullshit regulations, as we get quite a dose of mundane slips and ED at our lovely academy.
“why don’t you acknowledge that you really know nothing of other schools’ cadet experience?” and "<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]Almost all the </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]Maritime</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’] </span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]Academy</span><span style=“font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]’s do have a commercial shipping program that requires at least 60 days on a commercial ship. Get the facts straight.” -By “almost”, you mean 2 out of 5? Mass and Maine are the only ones, and the sole reason being that they dont have enough room on the training ship. I just had a detailed discussion with the 3/M (A&M grad) and 2/M (SUNY grad), and C/E (Maine grad) about their college sailing experiences, so Id already say that I am better versed in their experiences than you. Math was never my thing (and thus engineering wasnt either), but that seems like a measly 40% to me…sorry, I just dont know anything.</span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]“So, if KP guys are so great and they are a great investment for the government, why have the Feds recently started requiring that their graduates go to sea or join the military?” and “There is no “in the lead” statistic as I don’t see any official studies in the matter, its what you made of your time.” -No one said that we were a great investment for the government or had higher qualifications than the Naval Academy/West Point…just that we were better than you! We’re obviously committing highway robbery from the government if we can get your education/license for free, manage to not sail and land a cushy logistics job, and be able to call ourselves part of the Federal Service Academies at the end of the day. Doesnt that make us smart in some way?</span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]“on training cruises you also have a wider range of technology” -Forgive me if the logic just isnt flowing here, but how do you get a “wider range of technology” by sailing on the same training ship your entire 270 (1.5 for 1, bullshit) days? Most of us will have been on at least 4-5 different commercial ships, all (obviously) with different “ranges of technology” on their bridges…how is that less of an experience than doing all your tours on the training ship? Riddle me that.</span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]“Basically he told me most KP’ers go out on tankers.” -Honestly, what is that supposed to mean? I dont even know how to respond to this, because the assertion is just dim-witted. We arent allowed to go on tankers until our 2nd sea year, and its usually just to get your PIC, and then move on to another ship. You would have been better off accusing us of sitting on MSC ships at the dock than tankers…they are actually a lot of work, and getting your PIC is no simple feat. Sad that I have to suggest insults for you.</span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]“you’d still be an arrogant wise-ass and lecturing everyone on deck about every little detail. It’s not my fault that you don’t know how to make friends or were just SOL, and I don’t see how you can have a healthy career if you go blasting everyone on ship” -Since when did I say that I mentioned any of these things to current/past fellow shipmates? Do you think Id be that dumb as to ridicule my Captain’s or C/M’s alma mater when he is the boss of all that I do? Give me a little credit here. For your information, another lesson of being a cadet is learning how to sit back, be a fly on the wall, and observe how people do their things; most importantly, to shut up. With this anonymity provided on the forum, I find it a perfect way to get these things off the collective chests of the KP cadet community. I’ll have you know that all my evaluations have been oustanding, and have been asked to come back by quite a few Masters/CMs. </span>
<span style=“font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]” I like it when they put Master Mariner before their name" -Master Mariner is usually put after the person’s name, and the “Kings” in KP is not possessive, so it would be “Queens Point” in your cute little pun…but who’s counting? You still sound like an in-bred.</span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]“you are just another KP kid that knows more than either the Captain or the Chief Mate.” -This is the one that got me the most…where in the hell are you basing that assumption from? Perhaps from the time I said something like “I fully respect the license and position held by a captain, and that he/she has forgotten more than I’ve learned about sailing” or “As cadets, myself and my other sea partners have all appreciated any lesson a Mate/AB/Engineer/Captain/etc has offered to us, since we realized that we knew nothing”? Either you meant to say that I thought I knew more than the Capt/CM, or you just completely missed when you wanted to say that I didnt know more; fish is spelled wrong in your name as well…either way, you have joined your “master mariner” cohort in the “Jerry Springer corner of literacy.” </span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]You all have made the fundamental mistake of attacking a person’s character, blindly based off of few assumptions…made poorly, might I add. Only a few really addressed the issue of State school grads understanding the KP cadet experience, while most made half-hearted (I’m being generous) attempts at calling me a prick and a know-it-all. Do the schools teach logical reasoning or any form of debate? Might wanna touch up on some of that, because you all are just making yourselves sound dumber, while being completely outwitted by a silly junior in college who “knows nothing.” </span>
<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: #062971; font-family: ‘Trebuchet MS’]Thank you all and good night, this is just too easy.</span>
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