Do you think she survived that mega storm a few weeks back without a bow?
So this cannibal rat ship story was reported by the Sun, one of the biggest tabloids in the world, I’d take with a grain of salt. I reached out to the Irish Coast Guard, which was mentioned as the source, and they said there is no new info on the ship.
I also find it funny the whole cannibal rats thing, as if they mutated or something.
Yes even the ABC nightly news reported on be cannibal rats! What a joke!
Did the page 3 rat flash all her teats, or just the top pair?
can you imagine the stink aboard that derelict!
if it is still afloat, time for the Royal Navy to relive it’s glory daze!
That “Sun” tabloid is really something rotten, I tell you what. Aren’t they the ones who were ultimately responsible for the death of Princess Diana? I thought American tabloids were bad but damn, we don’t have anything on those vile British ones.
I was suddenly thinking that the ORLOVA might be a home to a race of humans now cut off from all civilization that lives purely upon an artificial world surrounded by the ocean
I have no idea where this thought came from but maybe they’re all living off the rats out there?
[QUOTE=c.captain;128953]I was suddenly thinking that the ORLOVA might be a home to a race of humans now cut off from all civilization that lives purely upon an artificial world surrounded by the ocean
I have no idea where this thought came from but maybe they’re all living off the rats out there?[/QUOTE]
Close, but you’re thinking of another ship, one they haven’t lost track of because it’s permanently moored. You’re thinking of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;128957]Close, but you’re thinking of another ship, one they haven’t lost track of because it’s permanently moored. You’re thinking of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.[/QUOTE]
HA HA! You are such a comedian
LEAVE THE FUCKING POLITICS OUT OF THIS NOW SHALL WE?
Gawd.
Davey has the damn thing now, cannibal ratz an’ all.
Justin Bieber and that other loony Canadian, Rob Ford, aren’t enough to keep the masses amused?
[QUOTE=c.captain;128959]HA HA! You are such a comedian
LEAVE THE FUCKING POLITICS OUT OF THIS NOW SHALL WE?[/QUOTE]
Hahahahahaha, gotcha!
Looks like that particular Rat Race is drawing to a close… http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/global-ship-breaking-business-booms-as-container-industry-suffers-a-883122.html
[QUOTE=DredgeBoyThrottleJocky;128965]Looks like that particular Rat Race is drawing to a close… http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/global-ship-breaking-business-booms-as-container-industry-suffers-a-883122.html[/QUOTE]
I might be off my game but I don’t think any of the boats in the picture at the top of that article were the Exxon Valdez like the caption said one of them was. Also, I don’t understand how we’re supposed to be on some sort of a re-bound in this industry right now but articles like this one and many others continue to mention how certain markets within our industry are “suffering”. Which is it anyway? Are we rebounding or suffering?
Agreed Paddy, not there, should have verified…
Pretty good discussion of ocean towing in this thread. Time to bump it back up
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[QUOTE=Topsail;97791]I was the pilot on the ocean tug CENTAURUS when we hauled the ex GORGON C. LEITCH outbound to Turkey for scrap. That’s what I call a real ocean tug. I tough that Transport Canada had learned from the ex CANADIEN MINER grounding experience, towed by the shit tug HELLAS, which I was also the river pilot. But it seems that it was not the case by letting the shit tug CHARLENE HUNT to tow the LYUBOV ORLOVA out in the North Atlantic Grand Banks …
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Would Centaurus have had any problem towing Kulluk to Seattle? I doubt it.
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[QUOTE=Topsail;97845]They showed me their program to calculate the catenary depth. I was very impress that the catenary depth would reach something like 150 meters or 500 foot below the ocean surface. :eek: I did not know anything about that catenary depth calculation?
z = -H/g (cosh (gx/H)-1)
where
z = vertical distance
H = Horizontal component of cable force
g = weight of cable / unit of length
x = horizontal distance
and
dz/dx = -sinh(gx/H)
V = - H sinh(gx/H)
where
V = vertical component of cable force
N = H - gz
where
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Wonder if they did any calculations like this on Aiviq? I doubt it.
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[QUOTE=tugsailor;97894]If I am reading the CENTAURUS’s specs correctly, she has 1200 meters (let’s call it 3900 feet) of 70mm (2-3/4 inch) tow wire. This type of gear and towing is far beyond my experience, but I would expect at least 3 shots of chain surge gear for towing a dead ship across the Atlantic. 500 feet seems like a lot of catenary, but it seems like a reasonable safety factor.
As rule of thumb I use 40 fathoms as safe depth of water for average conditions. That’s with chain bridles, one shot of chain surge gear and 2000 feet of 2" tow wire on a 3000 hp tug. With chain bridles, even a smaller tug with a shorter tow wire will have a catenary draft of around 20 fathoms.
The catenary formula requires information from a tension meter in order to be useful. Tension meters are not common on US tugs; at least I’ve never seen one. A static calculation could be made based on bollard pull, but tension underway is dynamic. Reduced speed or increased speed due to positive slip equals less tension and increases the catenary draft. The greatest tension and shock loading occurs when the tug is surfing in a big sea, or when the tug is being pulled backwards by the tow in a big sea The least tension underway is when jogging off the wind.
Some companies have a policy that maximum tow wire shall be used when towing outside. (They don’t want to risk chaffing damage at the stern roller in the middle of the wire. Chaffing gear can come off or get mangled up. Or in bad weather, the chaffing gear might not get put on, and the crew could get lax about frequently slipping the wire a few feet and greasing it. If the wire chaffs near the drum end, then a few feet can be cut off to get the chaffed spot back on the drum. If it chaffs in the middle, the entire tow wire has to be replaced).
The rougher the weather, the more wire you want out. But as the weather gets rougher and your speed drops off, the catenary increases. Sometimes this forces shortening up and slowing down in rough weather to cross shoal water (for instance the banks SE of the Trinity Islands). Or if running before the wind and sea, and crossing shoal water, you either have to pull harder than you should to keep the speed up, or slow down and shorten up.[/QUOTE]
Here is a little more from this thread
Recently had the opportunity to read “The Serpent’s Coil” by Farley Mowat. I think Captain Featherstone and “Foundation Josephine” should have gotten the Kulluk contract. They’d’ve done an infinitely better job.