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THANKS FOR EMBELLISHING MY COMMENTS AND REDUCING EVERYTHING TO YOUR OWN ANXIETIES.[/B]
Not a problem Alcorr. Always a pleasure trading insults with you. [B]
REGARDING SHUTTING IN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE DYNAMIC PRESSURE IS, BUT I WOULD ASSUME WELLHEAD PRESSURE WILL REACH ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5000 AND 8000 PSI, WHICH WILL DEPEND ON HOW MUCH GAS IS FLOWING COMPARED TO OIL. THE MORE OIL, THE LESS THE PRESSURE, DUE TO 0.85 SG SPECIFIC GRAVITY COMPARED WITH GAS 0.19 SG.[/B]
I can’t vouch for the pressure ranges you have quoted neither do I have reason to dispel them. We need also to be mindful of MAASP, Pressure Safety margin and Fracture pressure at the last shoe. The range you have given even if well inside ballpark figures dont address these factors. I am aware that they penetrated the reservoir at the bottom of the crest ie: the oil zone below the gas cap. If this is the case, then, there is potential to shut in the well and stop, control and channel the flow to ships above IF WELL INTEGRITY HOLDS. If I had to approve of this idea , considering the situation I would give it the go-ahead. I don’t give a hoot about BP but if it works the carnage on sea and birds human life and the atmosphere will stop. I hope this works. They still will have to intercept and kill it though and hopefully not try to produce it. [B]
WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO SHUT IN? I IMAGINE IT’S BECAUSE THEY NEED TO PERFORM THE RELIEF OPERATION WITH MUD TO SURFACE. OR, THERE MAY BE A MEANS OF PRODUCING TO A NEARBY PLATFORM WHICH WILL BE REQUIRED IF A HURRICANE FORMS AND THE VESSEL HAD TO UNLATCH. I’M GUESSING. I’M BACK OFFSHORE, AND HAVEN’T HAD TIME TO KEEP TRACK OF EVENTS. ONE THING I HAVE HEARD BEING DISCUSSED BY COLLEAGUES IS THAT IT MAY TAKE 2-3 WEEKS TO KILL. I MUST ADMIT THAT I THOUGHT THE KILL WOULD TAKE LESS TIME THAN THIS. I SUPPOSE THEY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THEY DON’T INDUCE AN UNDERGROUND BLOWOUT OR CHANNELING THROUGH ANOTHER AVENUE.[/B]
[B]I STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT TO THINK. WHY DO WE HAVE 2 JOINTS OF PIPE? DID PIPE FALL DOWN THE HOLE AFTER THE EXPLOSION?
[/B]If pipe fell from above it is likely to have done so before they shut it. I subscribe to the notion it shot up from the bottom before the shut in, rendering the BSR non effective in totally sealing the well.[B]
I SUPPOSE ALL WILL BE REVEALED IN TIME.[/B]
[B]I STICK TO MY GUNS: VIDRINE, CAUSED THIS BLOWOUT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BECAUSE HE FAILED TO CIRCULATE OUT ANY POTENTIAL GAS. BP, INSTRUCTED HIM TO CIRCULATE.
[/B]Have you seen or read any documentation pertaining to this claim ? Is it available on the net for us to read ? You fail to admit that Vidrine =BP and his other half the night companyman admitted he had f’all deepwater experience.
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HE MADE A DECISION TO IGNORE THIS AND NO-ONE ON THE RIG WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE HIM ON. TO ARE IN CHARGE OF THE VESSEL AND ALL SOULS ONBOARD. THEY MUST KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF EVERY ACTION TAKEN. THEY DIDN’T. [/B]
He like the rest he drowned out and over rode like the TP’s legit concerns after a heated argument during the pre-tour meeting were all following orders - forceful orders! under obvious threat of losing their jobs.He is BP and he took orders from BP in town. It must be made seriously illegal with massive penalties to force someone to carry out dangerous operations - I mean long term jail in a maximum security penitentiary overcrowded with deranged sex starved serial bestial rapists.
[B]AND, I’M PREPARED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT BP OFFERS AS A DEFENCE.
[/B]Well, they already have Alcor -Caesar over hear to do that for them, not to mention your timely reappearance at this forum to facilitate dissemination of disinformation at this critical stage.[B]
I WON’T DEFEND ANY PARTY UNTIL I SEE ALL THE EVIDENCE. AT THIS POINT IT APPEARS THAT BOTH BP AND TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPLAINING TO DO. AND MMS, HAS FAILED IN ITS OBLIGATIONS TO POLICE THE INDUSTRY. THESE ARE ALL UNDISPUTED FACTS.
[/B]Sounds more like you are grasping at straws - I know the situation is real bad and hope against all odds these next few steps will work, but you Alcor would not hesitate to blame the rig’s cook let alone sell your own mother in defense of your masters when you run out of ammunition.
[B]ONE MORE POINT: I DON’T SEE HOW BP’S PARTNERS CAN CLAIM THEY AREN’T INVOLVED IN THE ECONOMIC REPERCUSSIONS, THAT THERE INVESTMENT ONLY INVOLVED PROFIT!!! THEY INVEST, AND TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD! THEY WILL PAY THEIR SHARE.
[/B]Rubbish ! You can’t see this because you have not seen the fine print concerning contractual obligations. I’d advice you hold fire on this until you get more facts, least you put your foot into your mouth again. [/QUOTE]
Have you come across any reports about Corexit inducing rectal bleeding with clean-up workers ? Do you think this is anti BP propaganda or fact ? Any feedback from your buddies appreciated. Have you by any chance ingested corexit ?