Deepwater Horizon - Transocean Oil Rig Fire

[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;37355]I have no doubt, the workers, who risked their lives, to save the “ship” were doing theirbest, with the so called,’‘Company Men" paying a "Visit’’. We all get an adrenaline rush, when The Boss, is around. ''natural instinct". Yes , CMI it was stimulating, to observe you, and Alcor’s,“Pro’s & Con’s”… Like The Don said, ’ …It’s nothing personal,stricly bussiness '.[/QUOTE]

Let me explain something to you New Orleans lady. The last thing that impresses a country boy form Mississippi is some BS company guys from town that don’t have clue what’s going on & must not have cared too much.

I just Love you Ms folks, as they treated my family so well, when we evacuated from Katrina, and had to live there for awhile. I always, tell my friends, the only people who will get into Heaven, are those with a Ms accent!!!..

Y’all saw this? It is llllooooonnnnnggggg: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/21/us/21blowout.html?hp (This group should make fabulous fact-checkers for this one.)

and this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/21/science/21boat.html?hpw

and this, which is not good news for those in the industry: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/us/politics/22panel.html?hp

and just to make everybody’s head explode, I offer this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/20/AR2010062003168.html?hpid=topnews

BP said it had indications of a successful cementing operation and the company that was in charge of the cement job, Halliburton, has said it was consistent with that used in similar applications.

The article says that ‘BP said it had indications of a successful cementing operation’ and Halliburton said ‘it was consistent with that used in similar applications’. It doesn’t say that Halliburton thought the cement job was good.

[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;37349]Since the thread is quiet, I was wondering why the Rigs don t have Cams to monitor the Employees ,like we have in the hospital. Also, I was wondering, if google satelites, had any realtime video,which only could be shared with the governement ,and I mean ''close -up". Google, has a picture of me, standing in front of my house, with only my face blurred. { I was shocked, when I viewed it, on street view}. Any thoughts ?[/QUOTE]
You look great! Nice house too. :slight_smile:

What typically goes on during that last day or two near the end of the job. Is it slow or busy? eg Halliburton comes and you pump their cement in, then what? Is it twiddling your thumbs waiting for the cement to cure? Apparently some bigwigs were there for an end of job celebration of some sort. What would that be like? What’s the atmosphere usually like at this stage of the game?

Alvis this is a good story on the BOPs. I didn’t like the way they took it upon themselves to try to throw in the cement job with inacurate statements.[QUOTE=alvis;37364]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_and_canada/10362139.stm

The article says that ‘BP said it had indications of a successful cementing operation’ and Halliburton said ‘it was consistent with that used in similar applications’. It doesn’t say that Halliburton thought the cement job was good.[/QUOTE]

Dell, Thank you so much for those articles. Reading this, has me choked up, and so angreyyyyy. NO EXCUSES!!!..NONE!!! ALL of these PHD ASS HOLES Have The Blood of those 11 MEN on their conscienceeee!!!,GROSSSS NEGLIGENCE!!! INCLUDING MMMMMMMSSSSSSS. If we ran a hospital like this, :You would check in Alive,and Check Out DeaD!!!

Other than what I previously quoted, the only other mention of cement is this.

The other major problems on the rig, Congress has said, centred around the cement job. Cement in an oil well blocks explosive gases from escaping, and it appears the cement may not have set properly on the Deepwater Horizon.

Last night I realized why there aren’t a multitude of relief well in progress. It’s because BP isn’t going to pay for the idled rigs, and BP is still stuck in the [B][I]penny wise / pound foolish[/I][/B] mentality that caused this mess. Doesn’t BP need to drill development wells into the reservoir anyway, so additional relief wells have a benefit in addition to being insurance that the kill wells will work. Eggs all in one basket, a penny pincher still at the helm, and staring down the barrel of big cannon capable of going to 100k+ bbl/day is a position I find unacceptable if there are alternatives that can reduce the risk regardless of cost.

One more Q. In a worst case leak scenario is all the pipe likely to come out of the hole, or will the top just blow off? In other words does full failure create a way to the bottom of that well, so they can just run a pipe full of heavy mud to the bottom and start pumping like crazy? Is that remotely possible or would the leak flow make it impossible to even be in the vicinity, or make it impossible to run a new string down the hole?

Houston, did u order the disreguard of the CODE RED? U damn rite we did. MP’s guard that group…my hats off for a few good men. THX bp…must b nice 2 b 2 BIG 2 fail!

[QUOTE=New Orleans Lady;37349]Since the thread is quiet, I was wondering why the Rigs don t have Cams to monitor the Employees ,like we have in the hospital. Also, I was wondering, if google satelites, had any realtime video,which only could be shared with the governement ,and I mean ''close -up". Google, has a picture of me, standing in front of my house, with only my face blurred. { I was shocked, when I viewed it, on street view}. Any thoughts ?[/QUOTE]

Many rigs have realtime cameras that can be viewed onshore. Since 2005 have had access to all rig cameras from operations rooms onshore on projects I have worked. You can switch cameras onshore but you are not allowed to “move cameras” from onshore.

Read: http://www.csg.no/pdf/30_08_07_Statoil.pdf

Most major oil companies have this today.

With this technology we are one team on it is not “rig vs beach”.

Normal way of working:

  1. Drilling guidelines developed onshore
  2. Rig "Drillers work instruction written offshore by DSV and Drilling Engineer based on drilling guideline.
  3. Meeting held with rig contractor(TP) and all involved service contractor( DD, mud, cement, ROV etc) to finalize drillers work instruction offshore.
  4. Drillers work instrucution sendt onshore for review by onshore Drilling Superintendent and engineers as well as Rig Manager and service provider coordinators.
  5. Meeting held, often video meeting, with beach/rig. Reviewing and agreeing on final procedure/drillers work instruction.

Then beach and rig agree an the way forward.
Example of camera from “Blow out”: It happens qucikly!

//youtu.be/sYTO_0_0ReQ

NO Lady,
I’m a dredger not a driller (many of my old classmates are in the drilling industry), but even we have a VDR (Voyage Data Recorder) on the hopper dredge. This is much like an aircrafts “black box” it records voice, GPS Posit, AIS, ECDIS, course, speed, steering commands etc. In the event of an “incident” all of this information is available to replay the events leading up to the “incident”

I would imagine the drilling rigs, which are significantly more advanced than my dredgeboat, would have a similiar system in place.

Do you see the ties into my post on page 134?

Should Obama Resign over February 13?

By Kevin McCullough
Published June 21, 2010
| FOXNews.com

While defending his own policies President Obama has routinely been rude and sarcastic to his predecessor, George W. Bush. Yet Obama appears to be making the resident of the previous White House look like a genius compared to his own serious missteps in office.

Case in point – Interior Secretary Ken Salazar’s performance and the communication of priorities on the issue of oil rig safety in the Gulf of Mexico.
It seems incomprehensible that the president and other members of the administration still have jobs when it is now being reported that the federal government was apprised by BP on February 13 that the Deepwater Horizon oil rig was leaking oil and natural gas into the ocean floor.

In fact, according to documents in the administration’s possession, BP was fighting large cracks at the base of the well for roughly ten days in early February.
Further it seems the administration was also informed about this development, six weeks before to the rig’s fatal explosion when an engineer from the University of California, Berkeley, announced to the world a near miss of an explosion on the rig by stating, “They damn near blew up the rig.”

Article at http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/06/21/kevin-mccullough-obama-bp-spill-february-salazar-resign-change/

I’m curious: what do y’all think of this: http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/ct-sc-cons-0617-save-gfx.eps-20100617,0,6825921.graphic

[QUOTE=alvis;37370]Other than what I previously quoted, the only other mention of cement is this.[/QUOTE]
[I]I wonder why considering they only gave it 10 1/2 hours to set instead of tlhe recommended 48 hours?[/I]

[QUOTE=dell;37363]Y’all saw this? It is llllooooonnnnnggggg: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/21/us/21blowout.html?hp (This group should make fabulous fact-checkers for this one.)

and this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/21/science/21boat.html?hpw

and this, which is not good news for those in the industry: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/22/us/politics/22panel.html?hp

and just to make everybody’s head explode, I offer this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/20/AR2010062003168.html?hpid=topnews[/QUOTE]

Wow! That was a lot of reading. I hate to do this because TO is partly to share in this responsibility also. But the two most important things I took away from the article were that BP had TO change part of its defense mechanism to a test mechanism to save time & money & they clearly stated that at least half of the shear ram piston functioned fully. It sounds as if they did not even check the other half. Would they not want to know if the other half also functioned fully? That was very vague & open ended. There have to be changes made in MMS enforcement ability as well as culture. They must have redundant shear rams as part of a BOP system also.

What a web they did weave.

This would make a great movie.

The ICE Age

Take the most powerful men in the world from among banking, industry, armament, and pharmaceuticals.

Us their collective power, wealth, and influence, to set up a secret trading exchange of partners (ICE) while buying various corporations/companies still needed in order to trade those commodities globally.

Decide what the prices will be and you can control all of the markets.

Orchestrate a housing crash in order to fleece the sheep.

Couple it with a global crash and get extra points.

Use your globally recognized bank, the Federal Reserve, and loan money to developing nations that will default leaving you with the natural resources that were used for collateral.

Give said developing nations genetically modified seeds that fail to yield, which will produce or exasperate famine.

Make money from oil spill by selling BP bonds, provide the clean up service, produce the dispersant that is 4 times more toxic than oil while pushing Cap and Trade.

“Never let a crisis go to waste.”

Worry about the Gulf? Are you serious? The small people will have to deal with it. Do we act like we give a damn?

Put into power the President who was on board ICE from its inception.

You’ve got the trifecta.

I need a drink.

[QUOTE=dell;37380]I’m curious: what do y’all think of this: http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/ct-sc-cons-0617-save-gfx.eps-20100617,0,6825921.graphic[/QUOTE]
A politically driven ratings system of zero help in determing the cause/ outcome in the GOM disaster.