Norway is a country I have always wanted to visit and I do enjoy reading your “Greetings from Norway” post. It’s a beautiful country. No “Ugly American” attitude here, I’m actually well received in Europe whenever I travel there. Because, say what you want about Americans but we know how to tip. Perhaps you can suggest some good ogling locations in Norway?
I see two bareboat charters here.,![]()
Why are you moaning about such a good thing happening? I don’t get it.
Shipping companies are free to reduce their emissions. Nobody’s stopping them.
Freedom is actually a really good thing.
I’m not moaning “about such a good thing happening”, I’m moaning about you “dont get it”. (Not surprised, though) ![]()
Many of the major shipping companies based in NW Europe are doing just that, as they know what is happening to the climate and what it will do to their business in the long run.
Nobody can stop them. least of all those who have a short term mindset and lack the ability to see past their nose. To have a wider horizon will pay off in the long run.
Shipping in the South Pacific Islands is growing more perilous with the growing age of old Baltic traders with their unsophisticated machinery. New Zealand’s own trade with the west of the world is also put at risk with any move to more expensive shipping in the move to zero emissions.
Using existing tonnage New Zealand lamb landed in Europe still has a lower carbon footprint than that raised in Europe.
I was looking for something younger than me.
Want to bet on that? My left testicle is still there.
Younger than you? I would see her docked astern of us at pier 32 in Honolulu now
and then. Talking to crew members, I was informed that broken stowage was filled in with cases of beer that were sold in the islands for a tidy sum.
Well you found something younger than me. She must have passed under my radar as I don’t remember the SV Kwai. Unfortunately her cargo capacity is about the same as the quantity of beer dispatched daily in the Cook Islands.
There was a ketch rigged long liner registered in Vancouver that I remember. She had a Gardner main engine and a smaller diesel for services. A one ton plate cooler and 30 ton refrigerated hold with hydraulic line handlers she was well set up for the husband and wife crew.
They got a contract to take frozen food to Penrhyn Island, about 1000 miles north of Rarotonga. Being across the trade winds all the way she sailed using only the generator.
On the way back they filled the vessel with blue fin tuna and made enough for a refit and an 18 month holiday in New Zealand.
That aside I was thinking of this sort of vessel.
Now back to the current debacle over decarbonizing shipping:
Looks like another “win” for the short sighted:
But it is not over until …:
There will be winners and losers from the present stalemate:
There is no debacle. Stop trying to “decarbonise” anything. Clean up pollution, not essential gasses
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No. Not true. Climate change is perfectly natural. All CO2 contained in coal was at sometime previously in the atmosphere. Burning it simply recycles it.
There are no devastating impacts on innocent people from “climate change” but there are many benefits of higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. Plants love it. We eat plants and we eat animals that eat plants.
Do you really think coal isn’t taxed? What idiot would name a ship “Climate Justice”?
Predictable answer from down under.
Nice to see that not ALL Aussies are of the same opinion:
They even train for the event:
This young lady appears to be a very active activist:
Alexa Stuart, Rising Tide Spokesperson:
There is a few things that we may have to do without including the very ship pictured if we stop mining coal completely.
For example:
steelmaking
iron production
cement manufacturing
food processing
paper manufacturing
alumina refinery
other metallurgical applications
foam manufacture
carbon fibre production
tar production
pharmaceutical production
petroleum-based (synthetic) fuel production .
Norway’s exports wouldn’t be quite so lucrative without the oil and gas industry and those Swedish iron ore exports out of Narvik.
I think you overestimate the importance of coal in the production of the things you mentioned.
FYI most, if not ALL the products you lists are made in Norway, using cheap hydroelectric power. (Steel, Aluminium, Ferro alloys, Fertilizer and others)
In fact was mainstay of the Norway’s economy from the beginning of the 20th century.
Besides, shipping, fisheries and other export industries made Norway a relatively rich country long before oil was found in 1969.
Yes Norway is a very rich country today, but that is NOT from the sale of oil and gas alone. In fact the direct income from that goes into the so called “Oil Fond” (officially “Government Pension Fund Global”): The fund | Norges Bank Investment Management
Only 3% of the annual income from the fond can be used to cover the Government’s budget, the rest is the Norwegian “piggy bank” for future generations.
PS> The fond is NOT allowed to invest in Norway, or Norwegian interests abroad to avoid overheating the Norwegian “non-oil economy”.
Norway does make money from oil & gas related activity, such as taxes paid by oilfield worker and service industries, such as ship design and building of offshore vessels and equipment manufacturing, both for Norwegian and foreign owners.
There are also a large fleet of Norwegian owned and operated state of the art offshore vessels working all over the world.
So yes, Norway benefit from oil and gas production in Norwegian waters and beyond. But if and when that ends, whether because the fields run dry, or if the demand drops, Norway still have other sources of income to tidy it over until new means of income can be found.
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