Current Turnaround times for USCG License Renewals

I started my renewal package on March 24th by e-mailing to an REC. Medical evaluation has been completed and Medical Certificate is issued. STCW and MMC is awaiting PQEB as of 10 May. My license expires in November. I am glad I submitted early.

[QUOTE=ShawnYoungblood;137313]I just got mine last week. I awaited PQEB for 25 days then my permission to test was issued within a day once I was being evaluated. I passed the test Tuesday and should receive my MMC within 7-10 days…so they say![/QUOTE]

Congratulations on your tests…

[QUOTE=dmc;137319]Here ya go. http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/reports/default.asp Then click on performance report.[/QUOTE]
A few things to help understand the report.

“Throughput” is a ratio of applications coming in, and credentials being issued and/or applications closed. A ratio above 1.00 indicates less is coming in than is being processed, less than 1.00 indicates more coming in than is being completed. This is a good indication of what the next month will be like, whether the overall time will go up, or down.

Net processing time is not a measure of how long after submission it takes to issue an MMC. It’s the amount of time an application is actually being worked on. Time spent waiting to be reviewed is not included, and time spent waiting for additional information is not included…

Overall processing time is the amount of time from receipt of an application [I][B][U]at the NMC[/U][/B][/I] until the MMC is issued or the application is closed. This includes time waiting to be reviewed, and waiting for additional information. This is an average, obviously complete applications will generally take less time, incomplete will usually take longer.

Now on day 47, that is total days since I sent my renewal packet in.

The NMC sent me an email saying that they issued and sent my credential out MAY 12th, my current license has expired.

Any idea when the new license/MMC will appear on the mariner credential verification link?

I submitted for my International Endorsement going on 5 weeks. They just sent it to the NMC 2 days ago. I worked for a compnay called Allied and they just required us to have the certificates.

STAY ON TOP OF NMC with this Delayed Issuance. I did the same thing in 2011 and about two weeks out I was without Credentials. I called to discover that they confused March with MAY. Problem was solved via Fed-Ex but assume NOTHING, Trust NO ONE.

[QUOTE=highseasharry;134431]I just got the e-mail saying my renewal is complete. (I’m going for delayed issue, so it will be a while before I have the MMC in-hand.) I brought everything to the REC and went through it in person which was a good idea because there were a few things I had to correct and I was able to do it on the spot. Total time was 30 days.[/QUOTE]

Even when it shows in the database, you aren’t legal to operate without your physical license with you on board.

[QUOTE=rigdvr;137497]Even when it shows in the database, you aren’t legal to operate without your physical license with you on board.[/QUOTE]

Could you provide me with the CFR that address’s this?

Ill look it up myself but its %100 true.

§ 7110. Exhibiting licenses
Each holder of a license issued under this part shall display, within 48 hours after employment on a vessel for which that license is required, the license in a conspicuous place on the vessel.

The original Coast Guard MMC or license suitable for the vessel’s route and service license must be kept on board and be available for immediate presentation it to Coast Guard officials whenever passengers are being carried for hire.
46 CFR 26.20-1

(Relating to UPV as it was quick to find, iirc similar language for other vessels)

Straight up renewal, no medical issues, 41 years old, no legal history, no weight problems.

3/14 - (Friday night) - Application emailed to REC-N.O.
3/20 - Accepted by REC-N.O.
3/21 - Sent to NMC.
4/16 - Passed medical. Don’t remember how long it was there, maybe 2 weeks.
Limbo
5/12 - Being evaluated.
5/13 - Approved for issuance.

Some consolation: mailed completed raise in grade app 2/25 to REC Miami, received phone call today 5/13 from evaluator with file in hand in WV letting me know I actually qualify for larger ticket than requested. Very helpful. Worth the wait.

[QUOTE=Mullet Farm;137519]Some consolation: mailed completed raise in grade app 2/25 to REC Miami, received phone call today 5/13 from evaluator with file in hand in WV letting me know I actually qualify for larger ticket than requested. Very helpful. Worth the wait.[/QUOTE]

I would hope there are a few helpful evaluators there, and not all of them are like the ones i’ve had over the last couple years.

[QUOTE=Capt ETC;137516]Straight up renewal, no medical issues, 41 years old, no legal history, no weight problems.

3/14 - (Friday night) - Application emailed to REC-N.O.
3/20 - Accepted by REC-N.O.
3/21 - Sent to NMC.
4/16 - Passed medical. Don’t remember how long it was there, maybe 2 weeks.
Limbo
5/12 - Being evaluated.
5/13 - Approved for issuance.[/QUOTE]

Comimng up on 60 days. You will probably see it in 3-4 days.

[QUOTE=z-drive;137514]Ill look it up myself but its %100 true.

§ 7110. Exhibiting licenses
Each holder of a license issued under this part shall display, within 48 hours after employment on a vessel for which that license is required, the license in a conspicuous place on the vessel.

The original Coast Guard MMC or license suitable for the vessel’s route and service license must be kept on board and be available for immediate presentation it to Coast Guard officials whenever passengers are being carried for hire.
46 CFR 26.20-1

(Relating to UPV as it was quick to find, iirc similar language for other vessels)[/QUOTE]

Not carrying passengers for hire. I think this reg was written prior to the Mariner Credential Verification link being easily accessible. I would think that a reasonable person would understand and be able to be satisfied that a guys license was valid.

This rule applies to towing vessels, and leaves some indirect language that is open to interpretation.

The original credential shall be displayed in a conspicuous place on the vessel within 48
hours after employment on a vessel for which that credential is required. Having the
original credential readily available on board, but not posted is a reasonable alternative.
46 USC 7110 )

Why is the 48 hour rule there? Shouldn’t a guy bring his license with him unless this loophole exists for some unexplained reason? I did also read on the cover letter that came with my last MMC , that the MMC is not deemed valid unless signed by the person named on the document, and the Commanding Officer of the USCG. So if they choose to enforce that language on the cover letter it could be hard to ague that a license not technically in possession to be valid.

That being said, any boarding party will verify that the credential is valid by calling it in or entering the mariner number into the USCG database.

The renewal credential will be here in the next day or two, and I should be able to work and be in compliance. I’m not trying to violate the law, or the spirit of the licensing scheme, just trying to earn a living and follow the intent of the regulations. So far I have not ever gotten a ticket from the USCG in 25 years of playing around with boats and seawater.

Thank you all for your thoughts and comments on the topic. I hope that soon there could be some minor tweaks that could be made to the system of renewing or issuing of Merchant Mariner Credentials. Until then unless some changes have been made I will consider myself in possession of an MMC that expires every 4.5 years. I will not go through the stress and anxiety of having to be in limbo for 6 weeks as my license to work inches closer and closer to expiration.

As I said, I recall similar language for other vessels. My company will send you home if you don’t physically have it along with your most recent (annual) physical that has been submitted.

Haven’t been able to sit down at the computer and properly look it up but here is similar language applicable to all vessels:

(c) An MMC, license, MMD, COR, or STCW endorsement must be retained by the mariner to whom it was issued and, while valid, must be produced to verify qualifications when requested by an authorized official as identified in 33 CFR 101.515(d). Posting of the officer endorsement may be necessary as required in 46 U.S.C. 7110.

I don’t disagree that it’s outdated to some degree with the verification system though.

[QUOTE=dmc;137540]…I think this reg was written prior to the Mariner Credential Verification link being easily accessible. I would think that a reasonable person would understand and be able to be satisfied that a guys license was valid.[/QUOTE]

It’s not a regulation, it’s a statute (higher in the hierarchy of law), it’s in the U.S. Code. Bold assumption on being reasonable, don’t you go on to suggest the USCG is not reasonable? In any event, it doesn’t matter if it was written before credentials could be checked on-line, it’s still law.

[QUOTE=dmc;137540]That being said, any boarding party will verify that the credential is valid by calling it in or entering the mariner number into the USCG database. [/QUOTE]

They will? I wouldn’t assume that, but that’s just me.

[QUOTE=dmc;137540]I hope that soon there could be some minor tweaks that could be made to the system of renewing or issuing of Merchant Mariner Credentials. Until then unless some changes have been made I will consider myself in possession of an MMC that expires every 4.5 years. I will not go through the stress and anxiety of having to be in limbo for 6 weeks as my license to work inches closer and closer to expiration.[/QUOTE]

You mean like allowing for delayed issuance up to 8 months after you apply? That’s been around since way before the new regulations (since 2003, before the new regs we allowed up to 12 months delayed issue). But if you consider your MMC to expire in 4.5 years, that works also.

[QUOTE=dmc;137540]Why is the 48 hour rule there? Shouldn’t a guy bring his license with him unless this loophole exists for some unexplained reason? [/QUOTE]

Every time I signed on a ship, I had more important things to do, starting right away. I eventually got around to putting it in the rack, but it wasn’t high on my huge list of stuff to do when I got on board.

You don’t leave your driver’s license at home when you drive, even though the cops can check your dmv records w/ their laptops now, so your red book should be with you at work.

That said, nobody’s asked to see my credential except HR. People here have been written up for letting them lapse, though, so someone’s checking.

I’ve never been through an annual inspection where the USCG didn’t ask to see my license or MMD.

I sent my renewal package to the REC in Toledo on Tuesday via email. I got a response from a nice lady there that same day. I realized that forgot to send in my TWIC copy which she cheerfully accepted to add to my file. Today (Thursday, 15 May) I received an email from the NMC that they have received my application from Toledo. I have until the end of July before my MMC expires. I’m hoping that ten weeks is a sufficient amount of time.