I would have difficulty remembering a time when they weren’t worthless.
What about pre-strike 333 when guys were making dollar for dollar what they did in 2007 with assistant engineers, cooks and day-men?
Was a sweet deal at the time.
[QUOTE=z-drive;131359]What about pre-strike 333 when guys were making dollar for dollar what they did in 2007 with assistant engineers, cooks and day-men?
Was a sweet deal at the time.[/QUOTE]
Local 333 was a hell of a good deal for its members in the late 70’s and early 80’s. The only problem was that it was almost impossible to get into 333.
MEBA use to be a great deal for its members too. Maybe its still not too bad?
[QUOTE=tugsailor;131397]The only problem was that it was almost impossible to get into 333.[/QUOTE]
Again I say, show me a time when a union was not utterly worthless. If 333 was only there to benefit a select few because it was impossible to get in, that’s called CRONYISM. Completely formulaic of every union establishment I have ever heard of.
[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;131409]Again I say, show me a time when a union was not utterly worthless. If 333 was only there to benefit a select few because it was impossible to get in, that’s called CRONYISM. Completely formulaic of every union establishment I have ever heard of.[/QUOTE]
Let me get this straight. The problem with unions is that they provide no benefits for members, they just extort dues with nothing in return. But if unions do gain members something, then that just further proves how effed up they are?
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;131411]Let me get this straight. The problem with unions is that they provide no benefits for members, they just extort dues with nothing in return. But if unions do gain members something, then that just further proves how effed up they are?[/QUOTE]
What good are benefits if they’re only for a few people? The only unions that ever have the appearance of getting anything done are run by a totally old boys club, and probably the mob, and the only people who can join them are their cousins and nephews and brothers. The rest of the unions just do as you say, extort and give nothing in return. So tell me, what good are either of those scenarios?
Unionsshift the center of gravity of political/economic powertowards working people.
[QUOTE=Kennebec Captain;131418]Unionsshift the center of gravity of political/economic powertowards working people.[/QUOTE]
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, now that’s funny!
Power to the people! (cough, not the mob and/or union cronies)
[QUOTE=PaddyWest2012;131419]Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, now that’s funny!
Power to the people! (cough, not the mob and/or union cronies)[/QUOTE]
Get rid of the maritime unions and see how long the Jones Act survives.
The support of unions is critical to the survival of the Jones Act—support from the Maritime Trades Department of the AFL-CIO, the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (the Longshoremen), the Sailors’ Union of the Pacific, the American Maritime Officers, the International Organization of Masters Mates and Pilots, the Seafarers International Union, the Marine Engineers Beneficial Association (MEBA, the oldest and largest maritime union in the U.S., representing both engine and deck crewmembers), and the Inland Boatmen’s Union (representing primarily tug and barge and ferry workers). The breadth and depth of this coalition makes it a formidable force. In concert with the shipping companies themselves, the unions work swiftly and decisively to oppose any Jones Act reform, even smaller changes that might serve as slippery slopes to reform.
Fucking commies.
they are in washington d.c., using alot of money trying to keep the jones act from disappearing. a benefit to everyone, even sailors who pay nothing for the only voice they have in dc.
Chief mate on the San Juan run is @ $505 a day.
Oooooh that’s pretty friggin’ low!
I am looking for info on engineers schedules and pay on 750 class ATB’s on the west coast. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
I believe the 750’a are on contract in the gulf for marathon. Third makes about $420/day 6 on/off SIU contract.
Thanks!
I just accepted a job as junior engineer on a 550 class ATB, it’s IBU. I’ll let you all know what I think when I’ve had a chance to make an opinion.
[QUOTE=Atlastrekker;144883]I am looking for info on engineers schedules and pay on 750 class ATB’s on the west coast. Any info would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
750s are in the gulf.
3a/e makes 464 and change per day
45 on 45 off
[QUOTE=dieselengineer;147311]750s are in the gulf.
3a/e makes 464 and change per day
45 on 45 off[/QUOTE]
$464 per day for a 3a/e is pathetic. That must be the lowest 3a/e pay in the US. My unlicensed engineer on a small tug makes more than that.
It’s assistant, not an unlicensed chief. Low responsibility job paid accordingly.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;147313]$464 per day for a 3a/e is pathetic. That must be the lowest 3a/e pay in the US. My unlicensed engineer on a small tug makes more than that.[/QUOTE]
Crowley lost a lot of talent to the drillships for higher pay. Haven’t seen the latest contract but benefits include 2 for 1 pension contributions, company paid insurance, paid travel, sat tv in every room ect.