If memory serves correctly, they label their alternating watches “White Hat” and “Black Hat”.
So this tracks.
What draft was the Genesis river when it struck the barges in 2019? They absolutely can get into the barge lanes. If memory serves, the loaded barges were still in the “barge lane”(trying to leave the lane)when the loaded unit struck. This said… It’s not a bad channel for the majority of the run, everyone just needs to be where they’re supposed to be after agreements are made and meetings take place.
1 Like
Surprisingly I have got the same impression after seeing the first video. Thought, that the hypothesis the Tug was swept by the stb. quarter of the Chinese vsl. would be revisited somehow in the 2nd video, with the admission, the author was wrong with his hasty assumptions.
The grounding of the other vsl. has to do with this tragedy as Dali shaving of the pier in ANR with the bridge distruction what the Author highlighted many times in his interviews on the Dali case.
Therefore the proposal to wait for investigation results seems more reasonable then creating some extra hype about dangerous Chinese vessels.
Man they were light tug no tow this should have never happened. Period
1 Like
The first hypothesis was swept aside because I received first-hand information from those that observed the event along with a Rose Point ECS of the event that is more accurate that the Marine Traffic AIS I used in the first video.
The hype was not about the danger of Chinese vessels, but the fact that the media was reporting that Miss Peggy had capsized with no mention of a collision between her and Yangze 7. The issue of Yangze 7 came on the heels of Yangze 6 grounding in the Cape Fear and should perhaps give pause to some issues associated with the company and the competency of their crews as Yangze 6 lost power.
But then again, we can just ignore this while a merchant mariner died on board Miss Peggy with no accurate description that led to his death.
4 Likes
Excellent reporting on this Sal. You are doing fine work my friend!!
I hope everyone is subscribed to your YouTube channel
3 Likes
I don’t believe this statement to be true in general or as it applies to this accident. Beacons in Houston are set in 12’ or greater depth on purpose so tows know where they can go. Light pushboats usually draw about 6’. Specifically - the chart shows 12’ outside the channel for at least a ship beam width between 126 and 126A. It is confusing because of how the chart is colored. The white area shown on the chart is the dredged portion of the channel - 45’ there. Tows and light boats typically treat the white area as the “channel” and operate on the edge of the part shown in white even when there is deep water in the area colored blue. I don’t think we know enough to make a judgement call here.
2 Likes
Has the ch 13 recording been released?
Not talking for @OneEighteen - but my thought was if it was getting crowded in the channel - the tow normally has room to get out of the way just outside the beacons - but been a minute ( and about 5 ft of draft and 100’ of width) since I was going up and down the HSC.
I decided I don’t want to say much on this incident as I’m sure there will be lawsuits galore, and maybe lawyers scanning forums for ammunition….that said, most towboats draw significantly more than 5’ draft, and towboats should not be operating outside the beacons in HSC except in very specific places.
1 Like
Understand- just to clarify my comment on 5 ft of draft was the channel going to 45 ft from 40
2 Likes
I haven’t seen anything official and we’re just speculating among fellow sailors, but early in the discussion it was reported that the towboat slid down the port side of the ship before capsizing. If that’s true what does it say about the boat, the ship and the edge of the channel?
2 Likes
I need to hear the vhf recording. Unless agreements were made ….i don’t know, so many things could have been going on. Bridge cameras with audio would be best. Too many unknowns. I just read the first lawsuit was filed….im going to be following it if possible.