COVID Vaccine For Mariners

OSHA May Be Closer To Getting COVID-19 Regs On Track

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration missed an initial deadline for issuing COVID-19 emergency temporary standards, but the confirmation of Marty Walsh as labor secretary this week and recent agency actions could mean an ETS is coming soon, and mask wearing in the workplace is one area the order might address, says Gabrielle Sigel at Jenner & Block.

You left out this sentence from the CDC advisory you cited: A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths.

The deaths represent 0.0018% of the people receiving 126 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines administered in the United States. And yet the CDC cannot find one instance of any of those deaths being caused by a C19 vaccine.

If you are trying to say C19 vaccines kill, you have no proof, just selective editing.

I had COVID. Sat in a hotel for 7 days. 2 days with a mild temp and sore muscles. Out of the 6 at work all but one had mild cases, one went to the hospital, pneumonia, he has a number of issues that put him in the high risk category.

I dont plan on getting the vaccine. Or a flu shot. Nor do i take medications unless i am really sick.

The shots are said to reduce the severity of the symptoms, and reduce transmit ability. You still get COVID and can still spread it after the “vaccine”. That to me sounds like something that people in the high risk category should consider getting. Not me.

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99.9% recovery rate does not mean in normal health like before you contracted covid. Personally, I know 3 people that are fucked after having covid. One had mild symptoms, but now has big inner ear & lung issues and cannot fly, her prognosis is that it may be permanent. Her husband was in ICU for 5 days back in November and still can’t even mow his lawn without being too exhausted to finish. The third person used to be in a running club but now can’t jog more than a mile. Keep in mind that they were between 35-47yrs old and all in good health before, not overweight, no previous health issues.

John Hopkins states that the mortality rate for Americans infected with C19 is 1.8%. Meaning the recovery rate is 98.2%, not 99.9.%. Meaning the mortality rate is 18 times greater than your erroneous figure.

The 99.9% figure is routinely parroted disinformation, rife on anti-vaxx forums. It’s been parroted since the beginning of the pandemic, and it’s still spread around by people who either can’t be bothered to look up the truth, or actively want to spread falsehoods.

Dishonest editing of CDC info…Bogus numbers… We have a concurrent pandemic of disinformation going on.

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You’d have to be OK knowing you might be infecting other people you came in contact with including your friends and family.

By the way, the 98.2% survival rate from C19 infection is for cases in the USA. The mortality rate of the disease is dependent on the medical care received. The USA has one of the best survival rates. In Germany, the mortality is 3.1%. In Italy, 3.4%–nearly double that of the USA. In Mexico, it’s a whopping 9%. These numbers can be skewed a bit, because many more people may be infected than reported, but it’s clear that medical care makes a difference.

Another important reason for vaccines: preventing the rise of even more lethal variants.

Mutations in the virus occur in each and every infected person. A tiny fraction of these mutations are viable. But given millions of infected people, inevitably viable mutations will occur that can spread.

Some of these variants will be less lethal than the original stock. But some can be more lethal. We’re already seeing these. The more people who are infected, the greater the chance even more lethal variants will arise, and equally frightening, variants that are vaccine resistant.

You might not be afraid of C19 now. But unless you get vaccinated, you may be contributing to the rise of the virus that will frighten you.

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That’s not certain either. Blanket statements that the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission are incorrect, but the vaccine is clearly leaky to an extent. To what extent and what problems that may cause will take a lot of research.

There are good reasons to be cautious with mass vaccination campaigns. See Marek’s disease in poultry. I’m guessing the CDC is counting on enough people refusing the vaccine to not worry about lethal variants spreading undetected in vaccinated populations.

As far as the safety of the vaccine, if I went around and tapped a bunch of 90 year old’s on the shoulder some of them would fall over dead afterwards. Doesn’t make me the Angel of Death. But you can’t use that line of reasoning without accepting that you can say the exact same thing about Covid.

It’s certainly true that there has been no testing of the vaccine for long term side effects. However, if you want to start worrying about things you’re putting in your body that haven’t been thoroughly tested for long term side effects the Covid vax would be at the end of a long, long list of substances that are receiving far less scrutiny.

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I did not intend to imply any degree of certainty, it’s a matter of risk. People who refuse to take the vaccine are, to some extent at least, shifting some risk to others.

Typhoid Mary was an asymptomatic carrier.

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Yes the level of health care available does make a difference:
NOVEL CORONAVIRUS CASES IN SINGAPORE

New cases announced on March 27 23
Confirmed cases so far 60,288
Discharged 60,103
Still in hospital 27
In isolation 105
Deaths 30

Veterinary medicine is a house of horrors, I can’t imagine what we’d see if humans lived like chickens are kept. Vet people do so much infectious disease and vaccination stuff that doesn’t get much publicity. Here’s hoping this ends up more like a measles or polio and doesn’t have too many mutations left.

That may be true, we will see in time. It’s also true panicked and shrill cries for every otherwise healthy 20 year old to be forced to take a EUA vaccine may be shifting the risk of humans requiring annual Covid boosters in order to survive to the younger generation.

There are costs to vaccines. With most of the ones in current use the benefits outweigh the costs. For people in risk groups, the EUA Covid vax is an easy decision. For young, otherwise healthy people, wanting to see evidence that the vaccine will actually be sterilizing in mass adoption is reasonable.

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Are saying that there is a chance of the vaccine causing sterility in young adults? If so, what is your scientific proof?

Sterilizing in this case means that the vaccine eliminates the disease. I’m surprised you haven’t come across that term if you are interested in the subject.

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According to Fox News,

New York launches digital vaccination, testing passport app

Vaccine passports are coming faster, and for more purposes, than I had expected. This is good news.

Those that want to avoid Covid or reduce it’s effects should get the vaccine as soon as they can but continue to follow recommendations for avoiding the disease until those that refuse the vaccine or disease avoidance recommendations die off.

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Marriott Calls for Vaccine Passes (12:37 p.m. NY)


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The new chief executive of hotel group Marriott International Inc. called for the U.S. and other countries to do more to create something akin to a vaccine passport to unlock international travel.

In an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation” Anthony Capuano, who took over as CEO of Maryland-based Marriott in February, said he was concerned that no one was coordinating current efforts to develop a system to allow international travel for people who have been vaccinated.

“Time will tell what the right platform is. What we know with certainty, however, is a global, coordinated, reliable health credential system will be key to giving folks comfort about traveling to and to giving jurisdictions comfort in opening their borders,” Capuano told CBS. “We need a comprehensive and global solution for it to be effective.”

From Bloomberg:

We Must Start Planning For a Permanent Pandemic

With coronavirus mutations pitted against vaccinations in a global arms race, we may never go back to normal.

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From Fox Business:

Biden administration working with industry to develop COVID-19 ‘passports’ as vaccinations progress

Passports offer a glimpse of a future that many are longing for after months of COVID-19 restrictions.

I still carry around my little yellow vaccination book, how is this different?

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