Cleaning up the oceans

The attempt to clean up the Great Pacific Garbage Patch was discussed here earlier:

Soon a new technique will be tried:

Wish them the best of luck.

Might I suggest if you want to clean up the oceans, don’t start in the middle of the Pacific - been there and there’s no rubbish there. Try the waterways around say Indonesia or the Philippines. Plenty of rubbish there. Better still, stop people throwing rubbish in their rivers and drains.


Agree 100% @Jughead. This company has raised millions and millions of dollars, and hardly accomplished what other volunteer groups on land and beaches can do with only a couple hundred dollars. Another wasted investment.

Maybe start here: You can download their app.

You have obviously been in the wrong part of the Pacific Ocean.
Or maybe so long ago that plastic wasn’t invented yet??:

Actually there are two garbage patches in the North Pacific:

And more in other Oceans that you are not familiar with:

Yes that and reducing the use of plastic bags by adding a cost at the supermarket, liker it is done in many countries:

Reducing use of plastic wrapping on just about anything would also help.

Yes, but you can find a lot closer to home.That may be a good place for you to start doing your bit:


Try listening to a REAL environmentalist, a founder of Greenpeace and someone who actually goes out and studies the various myths of the eco-activists.

He has a succinct summary; “The Great Pacific Garbage Patch twice the size of Texas is killing the oceans (actually it does not exist).” But he explains it better in the podcast. Do listen. You may learn to temper your zealotry.

Or you could read his book.

The Ocean Cleanup has deployed its first full-scale system designed to clean-up ocean plastics to the Great Pacific Garbage Patch:

They have also moved the base to Victoria, BC.

A $31 million dollar waste, a way for rich Silicone Valley Billionaires to feel good about themselves. It is such a joke, and seeing it posted over and over just chaps my britches.

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Why sir?

Because that money could be used to support onshore cleanups at an exponential rate.
For about $600, you could support a cleanup with about 15-25 people who could clean up about 12 tons of garbage and debris. $31 million, broken down to the $600 cleanup, roughly equates to 620,000 tons that doesn’t enter the waters.

But instead, that $31 million has cleaned up roughly 103 tons.

Maybe I’m stupid or missing something.

What has the feelings of “Silicon Valley Billionaires” got to do with this project?
Ocean Cleanup was started and is run by a young Dutch enthusiast and assisted by Maersk Supply Service AS, a Danish company??
The “cod end” of the system was contributed by Mørenot, a Norwegian manufacturer of trawl nets and other fishing equipment.

What about spending $31 Mln. on a campaign to stop people from littering??
It could be financed by fining those who are found littering.
Wouldn’t work? It worked in Singapore

This significant funding round was led by San Francisco-based philanthropists Marc and Lynne Benioff and an anonymous donor. Other supporters include the Julius Baer Foundation, Royal DSM, and Silicon Valley entrepreneur/investor Peter Thiel.

As I appreciate the attempt. The money that is used for this project, could be spent elsewhere to effect way more significant change.

Thanks. I did bot know about the Silicon Valley donors. (Cynics may say it is because it is tax deductible)

Otherwise the donors are from all over the world. You are also invited:

Worth a read:

Ocean Cleanup is still at it. Read this article today:

Ocean Cleanup latest test results

What is the recovered plastic waste used for??
Here is one answer:

Satisfied grocer:Espen Vangen, grocer at Rema 1000 in Åndalsnes, is very pleased to be the very first to be able to offer his customers shopping baskets made of 100 percent recycled plastic from the ocean and produced by Plasto, a stone’s throw away.
From today:

Locally produced: Under the basket it is clearly marked who has produced it.
I’m sure most customers will turn over the basket to check where it came from. :wink:

Recovered plastic is made into fence posts and vineyard support posts. The former standard length of 1.8 metres, the latter 2.4 metres. Unlike treated timber they don’t leach any chemicals into the soil.


Interesting. How do they hold up to UV?

I have never used them. I have only used treated pine posts. Farm fencing is unique even to different parts of New Zealand but generally we drive the posts with tractor mounted post rammers every 6 metres. At the end of the line strainer posts are installed with stays and an anti-twisting system. The 7 to 9 wires are tensioned to about 500 kg each and battens at one metre intervals which are fixed to the wires by angling the staples. The staples on the posts allow the wires to move as they expand and contract with changes in temperature.

Post ramming on New Zealand farms today. In my youth we had a piece of 6 to 8 inch diameter pipe with a 1 inch piece of steel closing one end and two handles. The driver was fitted over the post and one or preferably two of us rammed the post into the ground. It did wonders for one’s abs and you wonder why I went to sea?