I’m near completion of my Lloyds Diploma in Marine Surveying. It’s surveying of merchant ships. However, The last assignment submission is a Case Study on our chosen specialist module, my chosen specialty - Surveying Superyachts.
The tutor presents quite the unusual scenario as the background basis of the assignment, a pre-purchase survey of a 72m Superyacht. Part of this Case Study assignment is in relation to Class. One of my fellow students approached the offices in Manilla of the two that are in the assignment brief without any joy (ie DNV and ABS) - their residing Class surveyors have not ever had such a scenario, so couldn’t offer any concrete advice;
I have also emailed the Sydney office for DNV but they are in radio silence, nothing heard!
Also put it out to the other students, doing different specialist module, but all with existing maritime careers.
Therefore, as we keep hitting road-blocks and brick walls, made me think to try here, with such a huge number of experienced professionals who are keen to share knowledge and experiences - Really hoping that here one or more on gCaptain may be able to throw some light? Hoping!
General in relation to the Class component : - vessel built to DNV-GL class in 2005, however class withdrawn in 2016 as not kept up survey requirements — a new owner wishes to gain ABS - would it be normal/best protocol to get re-instated to DNV-GL first - then to get the ToC (transfer of Class) to ABS, with the societies arranging between them after forms are filled in by owner?
Vessel is 72m Motor Yacht - category - commercial large yacht - 12 pax max.
My conclusions after much investigation is to advise to attain the MCA LY3 certification first, (I’m posing that the vessel already had LY2 - we have scope to extend on the information provided in the scenario brief - so my take is the vessel has been lying ‘dockside’ with care taker crew only for past few years - insurance would have been an issue without remaining in Class, correct? But perhaps was given insurance cover but only whilst remained dockside? That being the case - a ‘sea trial’ would not be able to be conducted as I understand because of the lack of full insurance coverage -
-then LY3 cert attained, as both are IACS members, all matters must be settled with the ‘losing class’ first - so reinstate with the DNV - then both societies will sort the TOC, the ‘gaining class’, ABS in this case, will be wanting to resolve as quickly as possible.
I’m also trying to further understand ‘Safe Manning’ for a vessel of this length and purpose – if the vessel were to sail/be delivered from Scotland to Caribbean after the needed surveys for Class and LY3 were completed. The tutor posed a ludicrously few in number crew accommodation/cabins, presently only 5 crew cabins, which are all Doubles! So a refit would be my suggestion, of at least 4 to twins (maybe could have four bunks in a few to up the crew numbers), keeping the Captain’s cabin as a double.
Bottom line is that there is truly not a 72m Superyacht that I can locate on searches that has accommodation for a total of only 10 crew. In the scenario they pose there is currently 6 crew, one of whom is a ‘trainee’, presumably not have STCW qualification.
I’m therefore posing that that they have been the ‘care-taker’ crew whilst vessel
decommissioned’ to a level, but remained lying dockside/floating.
So there’s a bunch of interesting ‘stuff’ to consider and then attempt to advise the prospective owner/client. As part of the assignment also Having to draw up a Survey plan for the LY3 and Class surveys that the client would be able to follow.
There’s only 4 of us in the intake for this diploma doing this particular module. As mentioned, all the students come from professional maritime careers/background, the majority are doing the course as part of their own professional development.
Clear as mud right! Truly appreciate any info to throw more light and/or direction.
Absolute deadline is basically tomorrow night.