CHief Mate Seatime

stevewhite · August 5, 2008, 12:44pm

So, anchorman do you think you should be able to go from OSV master to unlimited Master given you have completed all of the required STCW courses, you take the Chief Mate/unlimited Masters test and your sea time is over 3000 ton ITC?

minnisupplyman · August 5, 2008, 4:22pm

i thank that you could get a really good job with the big (500t) lisence without goin to all that schoolin an stuff because it dont really make that much sence to do it any other way about the way your talkin about! I thank that you should be able to be what you want to be if you can be what you want to be! Scarab do you no how hard it is to do what I just said? Who made you the boss of anybody?. What is the diference of those bigger boats from the smaller ones? Them boys and sometime girls dont no nothin about anything except thieory (I thank thats how to spell it) they dont no how to do the reall thing! They are scared little people with a lisence! When they are out far and away from everything they feel real good and everything but when they see somthin movin way far away they get reel scared -go get the captain!! They go get a man on a boat ‘called a pilot boat’ and he ‘the pilot’ climes up this long crazy latter and drives it for them! The funny thang is he might only have the big (500t) lisence. Anyway hope you have a good day man and be reel safe out there because it can be reel dangerus with all those untraned graduates! by the way you misspelled <gradeuates>

El_Capitan · August 5, 2008, 8:32pm

Yeah Anchorman, I guess I better get with the program! At this rate I won’t be able to renew jack, let alone get that big (500t) license! Do you think I’ve got enough time to get it, yet?<div> <div>Man, look at what y’all have done! You got poor Minnisupplyman all riled up over this here stuff! He’s so pissed off right now I think that he can’t even see straight!! People tellin’ his Anchorman that he can’t have his license. I agree with you Minni…who made you boss of anybody, Scarab!!!</div> <div>Minnisupplyman, I think you are right. Those little theory people would poop their underdaddies if they had to do the real thing like you do. Who are they to say that guys like you can’t go get that big (500T) license. </div> <div>So there.</div> <div>By the way, I think you misspelled life.</div></div>

anchorman · August 6, 2008, 1:55am

“So, anchorman do you think you should be able to go from OSV master to
unlimited Master given you have completed all of the required STCW
courses, you take the Chief Mate/unlimited Masters test and your sea
time is over 3000 ton ITC?” No. I think that unlimited mariners should be able to upgrade on Vessels >3,000tons (ITC) regardless of vessel class even OSVs…like in : <table width="100%]<tbody><tr><td valign=“top” width=“26%” align=“left” height="412]































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stevewhite · August 6, 2008, 3:31am

I notice there is a country missing in the U’s. Oh yeah, that would be the United States.

tengineer · August 6, 2008, 10:12am

I’ve been on a few large anchor handling and supply vessels registered in the UK, Norway and even Australia. To the best of my recollection all had a duly licensed chief mate where required by their COI. In the past ships’ COI specified 1st, 2nd 3rd engineer/mate on the COI. With the advent of STCW 95 many now only specify the chief engineer and master along with a 1st engineer and chief mate. The others can usually be either 2nd or 3rd officer licensed as they are already officers in charge of a watch. Their duties though are still structured under the old 1st,2nd 3rd system. The offshore supply industry in the USA has for many years had a limited license structure and “creative tonnage measurement” system that other countries have not had. This was done by the companies with the cooperation/collusion of the USCG as a money saving measure involving construction, insurance, manning etc. The regulation requiring a chief engineer or master to serve a minimal time as 1st officer had been on the books for years. That the vessel actually require a first officer on it’s COI keeps everybody honest. You can call yourself anything. I’ve been on US offshore vessels and walked down the passageway and seen rooms listed as captain, relief captain, 2nd captain, 3rd captain; not a mate of any kind in sight. I’ve known many a duly licensed master or chief engineer to work as mate or assistant but you certainly didn’t call them captain or chief of any number ! I’m sure the US companies could request that the USCG modify their COI to require a duly licensed chief mate on their larger anchor handling and supply vessels, if they so desired.

minnisupplyman · August 6, 2008, 11:34am

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: ‘Times New Roman’; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA]Scarab hey man! I am really happy to talk with you! My soon to be ex is really good at geografy to. Hey mr tengineer I thank that is a great idear to get us through this mess! I really dont understand what the big deel is. Why dont they just change the sines on the doors? Them boys and sometime girls that climb up that halls pipe get some reall good expeeriance and learn when I put that lift right here shes gonna leen thisaway and the same to the other. What if we rite a letter to Thad and aske if he can help us do you thank that will be reall good?

anchorman · August 6, 2008, 12:33pm

tengineer, I agree with you…and that’s the way it should be. But, regardless, if a mariner is on a large anchor handler that is over 3,000 tons (ITC) and that person can work up all the way to Chief Mate plus 6 months, but can’t get the other 6 months needed upgrade to master, yet a Master gets seatime to maintain his license… seems to me like something straight-out of the south-end of a north-bound mule. But, that’s just my opinion. (6 months in 16 years is nothing) This thread has turned to crap…by my own design…the point has been made and the horse has been beat to death…TWICE. Thanks Mr.Cavo…for being the horse…LOL. It really is an asset to have you on this board, seriously. THE END

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