Called me today. What is there background check like. Do they allow felonies
Also said they only do 28/28. What is there pay like
They called you, and you talked, got so far as schedules, and you are on here asking what they pay?
As far as the felonies, I would stop hoping people won’t find out or don’t loom that hard. If you are honest, forthcoming and carry yourself accordingly you should be able to find someone who will look beyond past incidents of poor judgment.
who the hell is Canal Barge anyway? They affiliated with the illustrious Tenner Cenac and Gulf Offshore Marine?
and what the hell is with this 28/28 shit…supposed to be 21/7. How do you expect to make any money at all for your wife to blow if you are home all the time?
My buddy works there as a captain. The pay for deckhands is $130 I think. They look through alot of background stuff I’m pretty sure. To be honest, I don’t think anyone with a felony should be able to get a TWIC or MMC but that’s just me…
[QUOTE=bcoogan23;159492]. To be honest, I don’t think anyone with a felony should be able to get a TWIC or MMC but that’s just me…[/QUOTE]
That is complete nonsense.
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[QUOTE=tugsailor;159493]That is complete nonsense.[/QUOTE]
Im willing to agree with him, 90% of felons should be excluded. Im out here to make money for my family, not worry about the new ex-con deckhand fresh out of Rikers who has been “rehabilitated” and proceeds to steal the boat blind. Had to boat hop yrs ago after the junkie ex-con deckhand tried to stab the engineer, yeah lets promote that shit when we have veterans returning home looking for jobs. Every circumstance is different, but i think to many of these guys still slip thru the cracks and its not fair to the rest of us who stay squeaky clean to keep this job.
[QUOTE=BargeMonkey;159513]Im willing to agree with him, 90% of felons should be excluded. Im out here to make money for my family, not worry about the new ex-con deckhand fresh out of Rikers who has been “rehabilitated” and proceeds to steal the boat blind. Had to boat hop yrs ago after the junkie ex-con deckhand tried to stab the engineer, yeah lets promote that shit when we have veterans returning home looking for jobs. Every circumstance is different, but i think to many of these guys still slip thru the cracks and its not fair to the rest of us who stay squeaky clean to keep this job.[/QUOTE]
Just so long as you are willing to pay much higher taxes to keep more and more of these guy in jail, halfway houses, public housing, and numerous other programs — forever. Also, be prepared to pay much higher taxes to support their kids. We either have to let them work and support their families, or we will end up having to work for them.
I would like to see boat companies do a much better job of screening new hires. The type of problem crewmen that you might get depends on where your hiring office is located and where you operate. I am primarily concerned with violent criminals, fighting, problem drinkers, and druggies. I’ve never had a problem with theft on a boat.
I don’t understand why boat companies hire guys that got fired from their last job for fighting and drinking. I don’t understand why they hire guys that just got out of jail afew months ago.
If someone is a pretty decent guy, skillful, hardworking, and generally good to work with, I will cut him quite a bit of slack and will do some babysitting, up to a point. If a guy looks, speaks, and acts like a lowlife, he’s going to be gone just as soon as I can find an excuse to get rid of him.
The quality of the character of crewmen has definitely gone way down in recent years.
[QUOTE=tugsailor;159525]Just so long as you are willing to pay much higher taxes to keep more and more of these guy in jail, halfway houses, public housing, and numerous other programs — forever. Also, be prepared to pay much higher taxes to support their kids. We either have to let them work and support their families, or we will end up having to work for them.
I would like to see boat companies do a much better job of screening new hires. The type of problem crewmen that you might get depends on where your hiring office is located and where you operate. I am primarily concerned with violent criminals, fighting, problem drinkers, and druggies. I’ve never had a problem with theft on a boat.
I don’t understand why boat companies hire guys that got fired from their last job for fighting and drinking. I don’t understand why they hire guys that just got out of jail afew months ago.
If someone is a pretty decent guy, skillful, hardworking, and generally good to work with, I will cut him quite a bit of slack and will do some babysitting, up to a point. If a guy looks, speaks, and acts like a lowlife, he’s going to be gone just as soon as I can find an excuse to get rid of him.
The quality of the character of crewmen has definitely gone way down in recent years.[/QUOTE]
There are a bunch of other jobs for felons, I didn’t say they couldn’t get one of those but working and living on a boat is a privilege in my eyes. We all like being on the water or we wouldn’t be here. If they approve TWICs and MMCs for felons then what the hell are they even “screening for”? Like BargeMonkey said, I don’t want to have to worry about who I’m working with and worrying about an incident happening.
Most people that work with felons think that they should be working, but just someplace else.
The purpose of the TWIC is to screen for maritime security risks. They screen for particular crimes that supposedly indicate a maritime security risk, and for other factors that suggest a security risk. I doubt that they care all that much about bad checks, petty theft, DWI, domestic violence, or barroom brawls.
I don’t know what the USCG screens for on the MMC background check, probably threats to maritime safety and security (which obviously includes DWI and drugs). Some guys who have done prison time for felonies get through it. I doubt that bad checks, petty theft, barroom brawls, and such, are all that much of a factor. I suspect that a fairly large percentage of mariners had DWIs in their younger days.
The problem with not screening at all is that it leaves a company exposed to liability in the event one of their employees re-offends.
Screening should be reasonable and pertinent to the job sought. Obviously someone with a criminal background involving money will find it hard to get a job in retail or banking, where one has to be bonded. It’s a matter of trust.
Child molesters should not be around kiddies…
Animal abusers not around pets…etc
But there has to be some avenue for people who want to live a good life and walk the straight and narrow going forward.
The US is great at locking people up, but stinks at helping the ex-offender get back on their feet. As statistics show.
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[QUOTE=tugsailor;159535]Most people that work with felons think that they should be working, but just someplace else.
The purpose of the TWIC is to screen for maritime security risks. They screen for particular crimes that supposedly indicate a maritime security risk, and for other factors that suggest a security risk. I doubt that they care all that much about bad checks, petty theft, DWI, domestic violence, or barroom brawls.
I don’t know what the USCG screens for on the MMC background check, probably threats to maritime safety and security (which obviously includes DWI and drugs). Some guys who have done prison time for felonies get through it. I doubt that bad checks, petty theft, barroom brawls, and such, are all that much of a factor. I suspect that a fairly large percentage of mariners had DWIs in their younger days.[/QUOTE]
I think we all have co-workers with issues in their backgrounds, and they are fine people to work with. Youthful indiscretion and all that.
Cant help people that don’t want to help themselves. There are plenty of people who do time and end up having a better life for themselves. Those people really wanted a better life, the others just say it and end up back in. You, for the most part, can tell who’s going to be who.
[QUOTE=NYBoatman;159561]Cant help people that don’t want to help themselves. There are plenty of people who do time and end up having a better life for themselves. Those people really wanted a better life, the others just say it and end up back in. You, for the most part, can tell who’s going to be who.[/QUOTE]
I get the impression that the OP [I]is[/I] trying to help himself.
But yeap, you are right in your observations.
[QUOTE=bcoogan23;159492]My buddy works there as a captain. The pay for deckhands is $130 I think. They look through alot of background stuff I’m pretty sure. To be honest, I don’t think anyone with a felony should be able to get a TWIC or MMC but that’s just me…[/QUOTE]I guess your the perfect person. Pretty petty that you think like that. I served this great country for 20 years. And commited felonies while serving (theft by worthless check. I believe that no man should get a job without srrving his country for twenty years. Opinions are like assholes everyone has one
[QUOTE=catherder;159560] Obviously someone with a criminal background involving money will find it hard to get a job in retail or banking, where one has to be bonded. It’s a matter of trust.[/QUOTE]
They can always run for Congress.
Not all of us. Some of us made mistakes in a younger state of mind, spending time with the wrong people. I now work two jobs to provide for myself and my daughter as a single father and live my life to be her best example. My background would terrify you. But you would never guess that by the man I am today.