So why was an unsupervised 5 year old allowed near the ships edge, unsupervised?
Something we are missing here…
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How did the child fall overboard from the Disney cruise ship?
“Broward Sheriff’s Office detectives continue to investigate the moments before a 5-year-old girl lost her balance while sitting on a railing and (fell) backward through a porthole,” Coleman-Wright said.
I am not sure how exactly this happened, but if dad had not gone right in afterwards it probably would not have had a happy ending despite what seems like excellent work by the crew including throwing stuff in to leave a trail back.
A friend of mine was a cruise director for a major cruise line. I asked him about some of the idiotic behavior I saw during my brief experience working on a cruise ship and he said that apparently there are a couple of invisible pails on the gangway the guests use to enter the ship in Miami. In one they deposit their manners and the other they deposit their brains.
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I really want to see a photo of exactly where the kid went out of. Props to the dad, he had to swim some distance to find the kid and kept him safe for almost half an hour.
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People have sat on window-sills and fallen out many times…
… were these passengers Russian?
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There are 5 large (6ft dia) “portholes” on each side of the ship at the stern. There is an interior railing that a child could climb up.
Found this; https://www.google.com/imgres?q=disney+dream+deck+4+porthole&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Flikely-location-where-5-year-old-fell-from-disney-dream-v0-yeu9aj9rrjaf1.png%3Fwidth%3D1080%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D25e9f1d4bb5870cabb4422fbd6bce5f34f77130d&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fdcl%2Fcomments%2F1lqak64%2Flikely_location_where_5_yearold_fell_from_disney%2F&docid=DaqU_FxmGCjcGM&tbnid=1y-wNWApY5xlrM&vet=12ahUKEwiS_sbUyaaOAxVxD0QIHbcDN14QM3oECGcQAA..i&w=1080&h=2268&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwiS_sbUyaaOAxVxD0QIHbcDN14QM3oECGcQAA&client=safari
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Definitely not kid proof! At least the kid fell off the stern, somewhere forward might not have worked out that well.
So, another un-supervized brat.
OR a whole brain damaged family, Here, hold my beer as I take this picture of my 5 year old leaning out the window…
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Next questions;
Are there laws against child abandonment, endangerment or just stupid parents?
What was the bill for the resources to rescue the dumb wits?
You seem to have the facts on this issue that the authorities haven’t released yet.
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Facts? Facts?
Anything past two stupid warm bodies went overboard is the only fact anybody will ever know.
Questions I have.
You don’t have children and that makes me sad for you
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A gallon of gas for the RIB?
Not a clue what this means.
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All generators on line, max speed of the ship to get within hello range for med-vac if needed, takes more than a gallon of fuel for the rib.
Although all of this is monday morning quarterbacking…
For decades (i.e. since the 1970ies), such a design (tempting horizontal ladder-like railings) would have been prohibited by building codes for publicly accessible structures on terra firma in most developed countries. I am amazed that none of the designers, class etc. ever thought of this in a maritime context that has much more in common with a family resort than with a regular ship.
If daddy told his five year old: “Will you sit on that rail for a nice insta picture, my dear?”, he deserves to be clobbered, and not be called a hero but an irresponsible idiot.
However, anybody who ever raised kids will know that you can’t, and even shouldn’t leash a five year old kid for a week long cruise. A five year old’s risk assessments will often be amazingly different from that of adults (well, definitely mine was, when I think of all the dumb sh*t I did as a kid).
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the middle railings with plexiglass installed flush up to the middle rails, not sure that even a small foot could scale them.
i also cant visualize the port hole. something missing in this scenario
I don’t know about you, but most seafarers live by the rule that if somebody is in peril at sea you don’t ask who they are, why they are in that situation, or how much it is going to cost to help rescue them.
If you are an active seafarer, maybe you should reconsider your Choice of profession.
One day YOU may be the one that need to be rescued, whether caused by accident, act of God, or your own stupidity.
You may hope that not everybody worry about the cost in $$$ to come to your rescue.
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The 5th post in this thread has pictures of the area in question. No plexiglas anywhere in that area.
Think of this as a Darwin experiment. When you do something stupid, endanger the life of a 4 or 5 year old, then realize you fracked up and jump over your self is a whole different issue from SOLAS. The whole world knows it was an un-nessary drill because of this Darwin event.
I can talk/type critical because I used to be a responder.
I have also brought back enough bodies also.
Everybody luvs a happy ending, two still breathing souls.
In reality, could of easily been one or two non-breathing bodies.
Please re-read my opening post. There are still many questions here and ammonia base poor answers still.