When Lavander gets into the details, things are a lot more conservative than the press releases. Crew augmentation and full-period remote control “local” by 2020, full period remote control coastal and self-steering between waypoints with remote control docking 2025-2030, fully autonomous by 2035.
It is clear from this, and an article in Offshore Engineer about “autonomous” underwater vehicles, that the term is being applied to what are essentially ROVs that can run on autopilot for some interval. In the case of the OE article, “autonomous” means “without a tether cable but still within sonar signal range.” The concept there is to use unmanned surface vehicles as signal relays so the “autonomous” swimmers don’t have to stay close to the mothership.
“Blue skies, smilin’ at me,
Nothin’ but blue skies, do I see.”
[QUOTE=Earl Boebert;194116]When Lavander gets into the details, things are a lot more conservative than the press releases. Crew augmentation and full-period remote control “local” by 2020, full period remote control coastal and self-steering between waypoints with remote control docking 2025-2030, fully autonomous by 2035.
It is clear from this, and an article in Offshore Engineer about “autonomous” underwater vehicles, that the term is being applied to what are essentially ROVs that can run on autopilot for some interval. In the case of the OE article, “autonomous” means “without a tether cable but still within sonar signal range.” The concept there is to use unmanned surface vehicles as signal relays so the “autonomous” swimmers don’t have to stay close to the mothership.
“Blue skies, smilin’ at me,
Nothin’ but blue skies, do I see.”
Cheers,
Earl[/QUOTE]
Nice to see that you took the time to listen to his explanation.
Like I have said time and time again, there is nothing to be afraid of for anybody on this forum. This is not going to take the jobs away from anybody anytime soon.
It is not a question of putting a “box of tricks” onboard an existing type of ship and send them on their merry way.
Technically it is possible to do this in local domestic trade in a few years, but before it make any sense to use “autonomous” ships in international trade there have to be an acceptance by the majority of maritime nations that the technology is safe and to their advantage.
Anybody who know how long it takes to get anything though IMO (except when the US pressed ISPS through in record time) can rest assured that their jobs are safe for a long time yet.
Of course they don’t know anything about ships and how they are run either. IT CAN NEVER WORK!!![/QUOTE]
As an old writer/reader/signer of R&D MoUs, this one merely says “we’ll keep looking into it. Maybe something will turn up.” Or, as I told a Honeywell VP when he asked what it was like to work on the Sentinel ballistic missile defense project, “It’s great, because it’s impossible so we can work on it forever and discover all kinds of neat things along the way.” I’m sure, that as with BMD, point solutions to interesting problems will emerge from this, but the grand dream is aimed more at raising funds. In the BMD case, Honeywell came up with a really neat signal processing computer that ended up in a torpedo. You just never know
I think the autonomous crowd have worked out it wont work till all vessels are aware of each other.
Hence all the development in the background going on now re autonomous aware vessels/drones/cars.
Then i think there will be a jump in implementation.
Just look at aircraft, they have pilots who can take control but they only go where a controller on the ground says, controller may as well have total control.
Look at us drones, anywhere in the world, pilots somewhere else.
Maybe all ships will end up with DP so easy to manage remotely?
The technical solutions will fall into place. There’ll be bumps and grinds along the way as long as humans play a key role in the development process. Once the ship operation controllers are designed and built by other robots and humans are kept out of the loop, everything will run smoothly. Bouahaha!
Norwegian Ships Officer’s Union is making their feeling about the low manning on coastal ferries and local trade vessels felt with abit of humor.
The ferries are getting bigger and bigger while the crew are getting smaller. One of the main contentions are the amount of paperwork required, since they are now under ISM code.
Problem will be solved when they become remote controlled and eventually autonomous.
[QUOTE=Lee Shore;195901]You must really hate mariners since you seem so happy to see them lose their jobs.[/QUOTE]
No far from it, but I’m a realist and it is a matter of time before the first ferry are crossing a fjord in Norway without the need for anybody in the wheelhouse, or in the engine room (if there is such a thing).
PS> Ticketing will be totally cashless, but there will probably be somebody to make “svele” and coffee though.
With the CIA already looking into hijacking a car’s electronics to assassinate its occupants I can’t wait until a nation state or criminal organization figures out how to hijack an autonomous or unmanned ship. I can see tech-gangs hijacking ships for ransom, Russia clogging up ports and waterways in any conflict with Europe or North Korea turning them into torpedoes or fireships. Ahh the future is exciting indeed!
Ahhh, the glorious future. Unmanned mega box ships carrying thousands of containers packed with defective Chinese crap nudged to their berths by unmanned harbor tugs and unloaded by unmanned gantry cranes, transported by driverless trucks, to be sold in cashierless box stores.
Please remind me: when everything is automated and 90 percent of the population is penniless because there are no jobs left, who will have the money to buy the stuff?
