Future of ships


#322

[QUOTE=Lee Shore;195901]You must really hate mariners since you seem so happy to see them lose their jobs.[/QUOTE]

No far from it, but I’m a realist and it is a matter of time before the first ferry are crossing a fjord in Norway without the need for anybody in the wheelhouse, or in the engine room (if there is such a thing).

PS> Ticketing will be totally cashless, but there will probably be somebody to make “svele” and coffee though.


#323

Looks like the future of autonomous ships will do like Santa Clause, move from Norway to Finland: http://splash247.com/rolls-royce-forms-autonomous-shipping-centre-turku/
I’ll find out more about it when I’m back in Aalesund, the present center, in mid April.


#324

The Future of Shipping is here already and Scandinavia is leading the way: http://splash247.com/scandinavia-leading-way-maritime-innovation/


#325

With the CIA already looking into hijacking a car’s electronics to assassinate its occupants I can’t wait until a nation state or criminal organization figures out how to hijack an autonomous or unmanned ship. I can see tech-gangs hijacking ships for ransom, Russia clogging up ports and waterways in any conflict with Europe or North Korea turning them into torpedoes or fireships. Ahh the future is exciting indeed!


#326

Canada is joining in the fun: http://www.marinemec.com/news/view,autonomous-tugs-will-become-a-reality_46449.htm#.WJ1LuC7Io4M.linkedin


#327

[QUOTE=ombugge;196092]Canada is joining in the fun: http://www.marinemec.com/news/view,autonomous-tugs-will-become-a-reality_46449.htm#.WJ1LuC7Io4M.linkedin[/QUOTE]

Ahhh, the glorious future. Unmanned mega box ships carrying thousands of containers packed with defective Chinese crap nudged to their berths by unmanned harbor tugs and unloaded by unmanned gantry cranes, transported by driverless trucks, to be sold in cashierless box stores.
Please remind me: when everything is automated and 90 percent of the population is penniless because there are no jobs left, who will have the money to buy the stuff?


#328

[QUOTE=Lee Shore;196095]Ahhh, the glorious future. Unmanned mega box ships carrying thousands of containers packed with defective Chinese crap nudged to their berths by unmanned harbor tugs and unloaded by unmanned gantry cranes, transported by driverless trucks, to be sold in cashierless box stores.
Please remind me: when everything is automated and 90 percent of the population is penniless because there are no jobs left, who will have the money to buy the stuff?[/QUOTE]

Who will have the money to buy??? Pensioners, like you and me.


#329

I think about this often. An entirely new system of distribution of resources will have to be developed, when human labor is no longer required. In the event that robots and AI’s remain benevolent and obedient (unlikely), and mega-corps do not enslave or eradicate us all (also unlikely), perhaps we will all earn our resources from a lawful governing body by doing other things such as producing beautiful artwork, perfecting the human human body and genome, and exploring new worlds purely for the excitement/entertainment of it.


#330

An update from Rolls-Royce Marine on their Autonomous Ship project: https://www.rolls-royce.com/media/press-releases/yr-2017/08-03-2017-rr-announces-investment-in-research.aspx


#331

Machines will do all that better than humans.


#332
That is unimportant, as they are not human and can only do these for us by proxy, not directly. Thus it would lack meaning for us.

You can send a 1000 robots to Mars and do virtual reality stunts and whatever, but until you set foot there yourself, you wouldn’t really care.


#333

[QUOTE=Slick Cam;196098]An entirely new system of distribution of resources will have to be developed, when human labor is no longer required.[/QUOTE]

I’ve heard about the concept of a new system of distribution of resources but very little on specifics. Based on recent trends, I have a somewhat darker view of where this is heading.
I see roving bands of bored unemployed thugs in the cities angrily demanding that more goods be distributed to them for free and destroying property to exercise their freedom of expression if they don’t see immediate results. I see them demanding free drugs to compensate for the boredom and lost sense of purpose that comes with a job. I see them setting up barricades and dragging Obie’s pensioners out of their cars and beating the crap out of them while setting their BMWs on fire. I see law enforcement prevented from stopping the mayhem because that would be an infringement on the “protesters’” human rights.
I’m not sure I want modern medicine to come up with a miracle pill that’s going to keep me alive long enough to witness this rosy Utopian future.


#334

You may not have to wait for automation to trigger this doomsday scenario: http://www.transportweekly.com/pages/en/news/articles/131829/


#335

You may not have to wait for automation to trigger this doomsday scenario: http://www.transportweekly.com/pages/en/news/articles/131829/


#336

More opinions on the future of ships and shipping: http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/the-ghost-ship-set-to-be-the-future-of-shipping/
10-15 years lead time should be enough to adjust to the new reality, even for those who are young enough to be affected.
For us old farts, we can just hope to live long enough to see the first such ship cross the Atlantic unmanned. (That should get the rocking chairs rocking)


#337

NSSLGlobal has written a white paper on this subject, it can be downloaded from this sight;

http://www.nsslglobal.com/droneshipping?=twitter

The conclusions are that it is unlikely that there will ever be truly autonomous ships, and drone ships for low value bulk cargos may start being built sometime in the 2030’s. The report further states that dangerous cargos will probably never be carried on unmanned ships.


#339

[QUOTE=DavidMT;196424]NSSLGlobal has written a white paper on this subject, it can be downloaded from this sight;

http://www.nsslglobal.com/droneshipping?=twitter

The conclusions are that it is unlikely that there will ever be truly autonomous ships, and drone ships for low value bulk cargos may start being built sometime in the 2030’s. The report further states that dangerous cargos will probably never be carried on unmanned ships.[/QUOTE]

So a VSAT communication and broadband provider wants to give their two cent worth on the subject of autonomous ships?
They probably know about the communication bit, but not much about the rest of the concept.

Yes, it will take until about 2030 before the first large ship cross the ocean autonomously, but the first autonomous ferries, coasters and other smaller vessels in short sea trade within Scandinavia/NW Europe will be a reality much earlier, maybe by 2022-25 or even earlier.

The first remotely operated ferries crossing fjords in Norway, or operating short routes in Finland may be a reality as early as 2020.

That is what has been predicted by those who are working on the entire concept anyhow, so no “big news” here.


#340

It is in the news just about EVERY day. This time a more immediate agreement to use RRM technology that is also part of their plan for future autonomous ships: http://www.marinelog.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=25438:r-r-and-stena-line-cooperate-on-intelligent-awareness&Itemid=231


#341

Great article @ombugge Thanks for the share.:slight_smile:


#342

Another development that MAY be seen on ships in the not too far future: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-technology-poised-wind-powered-ships.html#jCp