Part of Kirby Offshore is RTBU.
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Here we go, GOM harbor tug company SIU contract. Presence in 5 ports. Shouldn’t be hard to pin this down. These figures are for 12 hour days, so two harbor days are accrued for each day other than crew change.
Pretty much required to have 1600 ton Master as a minimum requirement to even get looked at for promotion, and lately it’s only been guys with Ocean routes that have been getting promoted. No compensation for the over licensed requirements, as those requirements are not written. Funny how that works.
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Can you explain this to me? Lets say im the master, working a 12 hour day, in my regular harbor. Am I only getting 271.91 a day?
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$271.91 is what I get on both crew change days, then $543.82 for the full 24 hour days on the boat. Plus premium time paid by the hour any time the boat runs from 1900-0700.
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Questions. In actual practice how does this work out? Base pay for CE 266 per day; is that an 8 hour day? if so that is about $33/hr, Harbor premium for 8.54, is that per hour?, Harbor OT 16.73. which is roughly 50% of day rate so I get that.
In actual practice how much time is in harbor per hitch?
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You’re always in the harbor. Tuesday to Tuesday week hitch, so you get 14 harbor days paid for 7 days. OT is far and few between, premium time is paid for the entire crew by the hour anytime the boat moves from 1900-0700.
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Geez, I must be dense. 14 harbor days for 7 days work?
Can you break it down for the hypothetical chief making 266/day? What would a typical weeks pay look like?
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Harbor day = 12 hours on the boat. 168 hours spent on the boat in 7 days = 14 harbor days. It’s just some stupid bullshit way they break the pay up in case they crew up “day boats” and send guys home every night.
It also serves as a passive way to keep the masses confused when it comes time for contract negotiations and keeps everyone focused on the wrong things like a big sleight of hand.
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Thank you for explaining. Count me among the masses as I was thoroughly confused until your clear explanation. When I sailed MEBA it was OT, dirty work and penalty pay. Dirty work was below the deck plates [mostly], penalty was not normal engineer tasks. Pretty easy to keep up with but they still tried to game the rules.
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Flight attendants on major airlines make more per year. Marine wages have fallen far behind.
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Mariner wages are far far behind, and they have been far behind for at least 20 years.
My wages have about 1/3rd of the buying power that I had in 1990.
A recent news article said that the average family in the US needs $122,000 a year “to feel secure.”
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I don’t know what “feeling secure” is but I suppose that depends on where you live. At $122,000 a year in most of the country one can buy a modest house, eat well and put a little money aside for the children’s education, retirement etc. But 12 hours a day at the pay quoted for harbor tugs ends up being about $35/hour. The last time I took a temporary job as CE in 2001 I was paid $550/day or $43/hour and this was not on a ship. There is something seriously wrong with the tug business mindset.
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Its more SIU than the tugs. Right to work state coupled with the union not having to provide all the services they normally would but still getting paid the same. Can’t go looking the gift horse in the mouth and pushing for proper pay rates.
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Quite simply: none of the “inland” unions are much good. Most are a sick joke.
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Anyone know what those GOM LNG assist tug crews make? Moran, G&H, Signet and Edison Chouest?
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One of those companies is the wages I posted. Only one of them is the named union.
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West coast Canada in Canadian currency .for myself only $ 188,625 .00 on my T-4 slip for 2021 .I also earn 1.24 days off with pay (Lay day ) for each day ( sea day ) worked ,12 hr day .
So my wage is based on the seaday rate .
We have the ability to earn up to 45 lay days before we are beached .we also have the ability to owe the company 45 red days ( red lay days )
With my holidays of 42 plus laydays I’ve been off since October 18 2021 and now only owe the company 12 red days .I never missed a check and was not short on my rate of pay ever .
105 days off sailing as of February 1 now after my vessel has come from refit .
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Holy crap Vane Brothers pays less than everyone listed so far here. No wonder they can’t find anyone but guys who get fired from other companies.
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They pay engineers competitively somewhat…all other billets not so much.
In most cases their tankermen are just tankermen though…they aren’t pulling AB duties too.
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Is this a typical union job? What size boat? How many crew onboard?
So that’s $188,000 cdn a year. A steady $3,615 a week paycheck 52 weeks a year.
If you get 1.24 days of ATO (accumulated time off) for each day worked. That’s roughly 162 work days and 203 days off each year.
That works out to a day rate of roughly $1,160 CND per day (for each day actually worked). $1160 CDN = $910 US at current exchange rates.
What about paid holidays, bonuses, and overtime?
Canadians have “free” national healthcare.
What is the pension plan?
If your pay is $188,000, how much do you get to keep after taxes?