No, I’ve never been on a cadet cruise.
However, I have a kid onboard right now who was a cadet on his academy’s training ship cruise last year. I’ve had many of these kids onboard over many years. Many of my friends, neighbors, and colleagues, plus a few family members, attended academies. I’ve participated in a great many conversations about the merits of cadet cruise vs cadet shipping over the past 50 years.
If you’re going to be a tug sailor for your career, I agree. The cadet cruises are not very valuable. If you’re going to go deep sea, (for which there are enough jobs) I think there is a lot of value that comes out of your sophomore and senior cruises. Freshman cruise is a wash for everyone. It’s about deciding if you get sea sick or not.
Correct Cavo. Still think it is a great option that our youth should explore… Son sailed on 4 different ships and operations getting his sea time before license testing… Was not a “Training Ship” it was the real deal. Forever grateful he got a different taste of the various shipping businesses. And no, he was not familiar with any of the ships, outfits he sailed on beforehand. A much better mariner who understands many facets of the business quite well. Is well versed in logistics as a result of that.
Did you also do cadet shipping?
Some (e.g. Maine) have a hybrid, 2 training ship cruises and one (“2d class” year) on commercial ships.
You are, of course, correct. We step on new ships all the time.
I trust that the TAMMA organization will use this as an opportunity to learn and will take whatever corrective action is needed.
I did the above described Maine model and remember both formats being very valuable learning experiences.
Mass does this as well.
Yes
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Same ole shit.
Article from a few days ago in the Cape Cod Times:
Don’t know what this means, the ship was purposely navigated using the 15-fathom curve? That doesn’t make sense.
“The ship maneuvered along the 15-fathom curve and at no point made contact,” Fossum wrote. “We initiated an internal near miss review within hours of the event in accordance with our published Safety Management System.”
Nearly putting a ship aground in broad daylight in good weather? No reason is given as to why anyone would have full confidence in whatever procedures are being used to navigate this ship.
“Preliminarily, we believe this to be an isolated set of circumstances unlikely to be repeated,” he wrote. “I continue to have full confidence in the crew and command.”
Anyone planning a career at sea is going to encounter many “isolated set of circumstances unlikely to be repeated” .
As Kennebec notes, this one line shows a complete lack of understanding on what going to sea as an officer is about. Hopefully the investigation will be done more professionally than this quote suggests.
I think the investigation is over with and that’s all that anybody is going to say.
The reason this doesn’t make sense is because it’s not intended to.
“The ship maneuvered along the 15-fathom curve and at no point made contact,” Fossum wrote.
The issue is not vertical UKC but horizonal clearance. Intended as bs to confuse the issue. Likely the intent of the rest of the statement is bs as well. Just PR blather.
I think Mass’ comment on the matter is the best “it would be inappropriate for us to comment during MARAD’s investigation” aka that was a fuck up and we can’t say shit to justify it
They are saying don’t worry. You can still give us that $1 billion new “national security” ship.
Such profound statements from the Colonel…evidently, maneuvering along the 15 fathom curve make it all ok.
It is difficult to comprehend that a cadre of unlimited tonnage licensed mariners and marine transportation faculty members could all be so negligent and irresponsible so as to allow the vessel to be put in such a position. Inexcusable.
Jeff Hagopian
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