Shipping bottleneck at Los Angles / Long Beach

It does seem as though everyone is searching for a point-source in what appears to be a systemic failure. It is easier to assign blame to a smaller number of factors and deal with them one at a time, rather than systemically, but I can’t help but think that this may not be effective.

Another thought is that if we do want to manage the issue on a point-by-point basis and focus efforts on a point-source, if the effects of California’s AB5 (operator and vehicle restrictions) is as significant a source of the delays as has been suggested, why is no one advocating for a waiver on the regulations emplaced on this relatively new law? I haven’t seen anything addressed to dealing with vehicle and operator restrictions, whether as a point-source or as part of larger systemic changes.
Speaking for myself, I can’t see any singe point of change having sufficient impact to be significant, but nonetheless it makes me wonder if there are ideas too taboo for discussion.

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Big bottlenecks have little bottlenecks and little bottlenecks have lesser bottlenecks and so on.

Maybe a long term idea that could help ports around the world (incl, LA/LB) keeping up with demand:

PS> which Port is on the picture?? (I don’t know)

Yantian International Container Terminal in Shenzhen, Guangdong, China


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So true dude

Road Master School is 4 + weeks, 12 thousand dollars and you still have to start as a JR driver which means you have to find a company that has a training program and Pays one of their drivers extra to ride with you, and not separately, The senior driver has to be up while you drive Meaning also the Company pays for hotels. I don’t know how many hours you need, But it takes awhile before you are let loose,

Some on the ground reporting - or rather on the boat. Interesting thread.

An update from Petersen, city of LB had a limit on how high containers could be stacked. Don’t know the details.

Here it is - was limited to two boxes high.

This is in regards to a couple of the different threads on LA/ LB.
For trucks/trains the Cal EPA required retrofitting or retirement of diesel engines. The cost 5 years ago was $20,000+ per engine. Today if you see an 18-wheeler on the highways of the US you will see a California EPA sticker on them. All California ports required trucks to meet this requirement thus putting older trucks/older drivers out of business.
Regards other old West Coast
Port news. Marine Highway getting under way - Business* - - Stockton, CA
Highway's trip ends too soon - Editorial - - Stockton, CA
Newer news.
Container shortage, Port of Oakland congestion to impact availability of holiday merchandise

So when do we start getting concerned about thermally unstable container/ISO cargo on these ships? Most of those have 30 or 60 day clocks from load to unload.

Currently 100+ ships at anchor off LA ports. Typical time at port is 2-3 days to load/offload containers. Even with 24/7 operations,they probably won’t be done until this time next year. Redirecting ships is not an option either as I understand. Where to go to, Mexico? Just stop sending ships.

It has come to this if this is true. Transport crisis.

But please don’t dump containers in neighborhoods like some people have been doing. Blocking driveways and emergency services. That has to stop.

While everybody is looking for somebody else to blame;

CMA CGM is offering incentive to consignees to pick up their import containers asap:

Don’t know if this will make any difference??:

Less containers being loaded in Ningbo means less containers arriving at LA/LB.

If it is any consolation; other ports have problems too:

Given the record breaking profits they can afford it.

" In 2021, the industry is forecast to make $150 billion. That’s a new record. In 2020, the industry brought in $25.4 billion, according to The Journal of Commerce."

Yes it make total sense; if the consignees doesn’t pick up their cargo in time the shipping company that brought it to the port must be punished.
Why don’t the consignees pick up their cargo??
Because the infrastructure to do so doesn’t function and there is a shortage of everything, incl. truck drivers.

But at least there is some good news, the Railway companies are making good money:

PS> Good news if you have shares in them.

Now if China would stop sending all this junk that they make and trick gullible Muricans into buying it there wouldn’t be any problem with the supply chain.

Looks like capitalism is functioning though. The system of “Supply and Demand” is working as it should.

Oh, did I mention that inflation is up because of the high prices that have to be charge to pay for all this + the tariffs that is imposed on everything imported from China?
(No, China doesn’t pay the tariffs and profit margins have to be kept.)

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Problem solved; US Congress has passed a Bill (bipartisan, believe it or not) that will regulate how foreign shipping companies operates and make sure that ships wait for export cargo before leaving US ports:

Of course it does not solve the problem of how import cargo gets from the port to the consignees, nor how the export cargo gets to the ports in time to get loaded on the ships without delays.

It doesn’t say how this can be enforced either. Are they going stop ships from leaving port when unloaded and no return cargo are ready and available to load?
Who are going to pay demurrage for ships waiting on cargo?

Shipping is an international venture, regulated by international laws and regulations, some dating back hundreds of years.

PS> US Congress does not have extraterritorial jurisdiction and US Courts does not have authority outside US territory. (Except on board US flag ships)

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US Short Sea/Inland Shipping is moving closer to reality: