Where can I find copies of the assessment sheets for RFPNW and for OICNW? I saw the six celestial assessments for OICNW, is that it or is there more? And if someone already has an AB but not RFPNW what is the process to get it? Is it as simple as completing the assessments?
For RFPNW: www.uscg.mil/nmc/marpers/pag/14-02.pdf
Everything is explained in there. RFPNW can be a massive pain in the ass to get. Read through 14-02 several times, and do a search on here about RFPNW; there’s been several threads about it.
Good luck…
Edit to add: cut and paste the entire web address there; I don’t know what I’ve failed to do in order for it to link to it properly, but that will bring you to 14-02…
You can go to MPT in Ft. Lauderdale for your RFPNW assessments. They put you on a simulator for the entire day running through the excercises. They sign off on all your RFPNW sheets. The cost is around 800, but worth it if you don’t currently work on a ship or large vessel.
The process is easy. Steer a course, range, etc. Follow orders from the bridge. Not bad at all.
What about OICNW? Is it just those six or eight practical celestial assessments?
And I am a bit confused about RFPNW. Do you have to do both the assessment grid that looks like the toar and the individual sheets or can you use either? Or does it have to be the individual sheets and they are trying to mess with us?
There is about 20 something sheets for the RFPNW. To cap it off, there is what looks like a spreadsheet with a summary of the assessments you also have to get signed as well. OICNW assessments are different. RFPNW is for entry level stuff, to become AB.
OICNW is another can of worms that have specific sheets for different subjects. ARPA, Celestial, Coastal Nav, Terrestrial Nav all have their own control sheets you get signed off on.
I only found the OICNW sheets for celestial. I will dig some more and see if I can find others.
So for RFPNW you need to complete the spreadsheet and the individual sheets as well? That seems like a redundant waste of time.
There are 84 or 85 assessments for OICNW. They can be found as an enclosure to policy letter 11-07 (http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/announcements/CG-543%20Policy%20Letter%2011-07.pdf) . These are the same assessments that used to be in policy letter 01-02. There was also 1 assessment in policy letter 16-02. You need to make sure that that one is in 11-07. If not you need to print it out & include it as well.
It seems like this is something the nmc should have on its website. A pdf with all required assessments called “OICNW Assessments” (or RFPNW) so we don’t need to hunt through policy letters to find them.
Could someone post a link to the check sheets for OICNW?
Don’t forget about the 180 days you need logged on top of your RFPNW assessments. MPT can do the assessments but you still need to have the required logged time. I submitted all my assessments only for the NMC to turn it down because I did not have logged days signed off by the master to prove my 180 days .
[QUOTE=BradP;80177]Don’t forget about the 180 days you need logged on top of your RFPNW assessments. MPT can do the assessments but you still need to have the required logged time. I submitted all my assessments only for the NMC to turn it down because I did not have logged days signed off by the master to prove my 180 days .[/QUOTE]
The Coast Guard will credit RFPNW as “lookout only” on your MMC. Then you only need 60 days.
Haha! A lot of things would ‘seem’ to make sense. But the USCG isn’t included in that kind of assumption. (Sorry Boats)
[QUOTE=Capt. Phoenix;54452]It seems like this is something the nmc should have on its website. A pdf with all required assessments called “OICNW Assessments” (or RFPNW) so we don’t need to hunt through policy letters to find them.[/QUOTE]
Maybe we want you to actually read and perhaps even understand the policy before you charge out and start doing what you think is required.
[QUOTE=jdcavo;80217]Maybe we want you to actually read and perhaps even understand the policy before you charge out and start doing what you think is required.[/QUOTE]
Although I understand how to ‘search’ and generally know what words to use while searching, a newbie is not of benefit to have over 30 years dealing with “Milspeak” “Mildoublespeak” “Millogic” “Milorganization.” The NMC website has a new addition. There is a radio button “FORMS” that is relatively new. BUT, it only has a couple of forms on it. There is another button that says “Training and Assessment.” A logical assumption could be made the info would possibly be there. (NO)
I would think that ALL the forms we need as the end user would be readily available. After all, this IS the internet age, where life is supposed to be easier. OR, we could just hire a recently retired alumnus from a REC to wade through this for us?!
Imagine if you had to hire a retired registry cop to help you figure out how to apply, how to qualify and how to go about something as mundane as getting a drivers license! This should not be so difficult. It has been this way for as long as I can remember.
[QUOTE=Xavier6162;80184]The Coast Guard will credit RFPNW as “lookout only” on your MMC. Then you only need 60 days.[/QUOTE]
That works ONLY if you have attended an RFPNW PROGRAM and not an RFPNW course.
[QUOTE=Robert;80276]That works ONLY if you have attended an RFPNW PROGRAM and not an RFPNW course.[/QUOTE]
What is the difference? I didn’t say that to be curt. I really don’t know.
[QUOTE=Xavier6162;80278]What is the difference? I didn’t say that to be curt. I really don’t know.[/QUOTE]
A program has been approved by the Coast Guard for both the 5 day classroom portion of RFPNW and the at sea training portion (the 60 days) and when you complete the program, you get an RFPNW certificate without the Lookout Only restriction. An RFPNW course is only a 5 day course with no approved at sea portion and you get an Lookout Only certificate and still need to complete the 180 days of training at sea.
Got’cha. So the program I went through now only requires the 60 day assessment time to remove the “Lookout Only” from my MMC. That makes me feel better.
The Coast Guard told me otherwise at the Long Beach office and over there customer service line. They looked at my assessments, the school and told me all I needed was the 60 days. Same information from the school. The union took a look and said the same. 60Days. Final word was the Coast Guard. They gave me the assessment forms (my third set) and gave me advise on obtaining the 60 days.