Only Religious Sailors Can Be Good Sailors

sailors are about the most apathetic bunch i’ve worked with, The subject is a non-starter but any observer has to figure things work better with the right on the right!!

My first chief mate ever used to make a big show at mealtime of stopping to say a prayer and crossing himself. Then, ashore, it was hookers left and right. Guy’s body was probably a jungle gym for STDs and his poor wife back home was none the wiser when he got back to her and they had their “alone time.”

I told him he was a giant hypocrite asshole and he replied back “well you interpret the Bible your way, I do it mine.”

Giant. Hypocrite. Asshole.

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The real horror is your lack of understanding of the Constitution that shelters your creation mythology and tax free status.

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That guy definitely sounds like an untrustworthy person. I don’t judge people for their vices at work unless their problems affects me. To each their own. But I believe & I’ve told my kids the contract of marriage, civil or religious, is the most binding, expensive contract a person will ever engage in. If a person has what it takes to screw over their closest, most important partner in their lives, you should always consider where you stand with that person in business deals. I’m not judging them, but if a mariner can break a contract with their other 50%, the mother of his children, everyone on the ship in 3rd tier when it comes to keeping agreements/contracts imo.

All that being said, on my ship of 25+ I can count on 2 or 3 fingers those who claim to pray & visit a house of worship regularly. But I don’t have enough fingers to count the Easter Day only Christians, agnostics or atheists who have cheated on their spouses. Call the Christian who cheats on his wife a hypocrite if you want but none of those once a year Christians, agnostics are atheists are going home to spill the beans to their wives about their infidelities. They’re just as much hypocrites as anyone else imo. They’re just not lying to their shipmates about it.

I said I was through posting but you appear to be using the same old typical “stereotypes” used against anyone you do not agree with.

Churches get tax-fee status oftentimes because of the charity and community work they do. My denomination has a very large disaster relief outfit. I spent ten years as a disaster relief volunteer. Not to mention the children’s homes, medical/dental ministries, agricultural, aviation, and other ministries. You start taxing churches and a lot of these ministries would disappear. The Salvation Army (a CHURCH), and the Red Cross would have no one to prepare and cook food in many disaster zones. After Helene, the NCBOM served hundred’s of thousands of meals. I have filled out many forms for people who needed help after their homes were flooded or destroyed to create work orders for our teams to either clear debris so a new home could be built or a home could have a tear-out, mud-out, mold prevention treatment.

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Yes, I am a liar. After I read where the FFRF is having a hissy because Texas is calling for a day of prayer and are being threatened by FFRF, I felt compelled to post.

Just as their wives aren’t going to tell them everything that’s been going on while they were gone. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Southern USA Slang:
“Front Row Kneeler”
These are the guys drinking, gambling, and whoring Friday and Saturday night who are front row center in church on Sunday re-upping for another round.

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I was thinking something very similar about @ShooterMcGavin former chief mate. Maybe they were just staying together for the kids & the marriage/sex life had been dead for years? Or maybe the 4 months loneliness was too long for both husband & wife & they had an understanding? I workered with a church going, freemason Chief Engineer who had the same wife until he died in a motorcycle accident, over 30 years married. He said his wife would pack condoms in his seabag & told him to never bring home any STD’s.

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That is funny. I’ve known similar and their marriages lasted for life. Other cultures don’t make as big a deal out of this issue, it’s a left over puritanical issue with many in the US. When I got divorced the first time I found out later she had not been celibate during my absence, which was NOT the reason for the divorce but it did make me think of opportunities I had passed up while working 4 and 6 month plus contracts. Filed that under ‘lessons learned’. If a married mariner wants to hire a temp worker that’s their business but condoms should be required safety equipment. The world changed when diseases came out that couldn’t be cured with an antibiotic.

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several times in heavy weather I prayed to god that if he let me live through this storm I would never sail again.
kinda back pedaled on that for about 40 years

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once you go to confession you can start over with a clean slate

Those aren’t stereotypes, they’re observations from my experience as a mariner which contradict the premise of the title of this thread.

A stereotype would be suggesting all priests are pedophiles, but I haven’t said that because I know most are not. My childhood priest certainly was not, but I recently found out the priest who baptized me was, so forgive me if I get a little annoyed when people who are more religious suggest that religion is the only provider of morals and public service.

To those who volunteer for disaster relief, I commend you. But to suggest that the only ones who are are faith-based is just pompous and prideful.

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Which gave us country music.

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Of course it is pompous and prideful. They have their signs out so everyone knows who they are.

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You say it like country music is good. haha
(Loved it in the 1990-2000s, but not anymore)

I’d like to point out that, in my general experience, any time you assemble a group of ten random people you’ll discover at least one or two assholes among them - regardless of what sort of “they” they are. Christians? You’ll find some assholes. Atheists? You’ll find a few assholes. Straight, gay, trans or other? Yep, there’ll be an asshole or two in there. Cops? Military? Sailors? Government workers? Office drones? Farmers? Buddhist monks? Yeah, you’ll probably find an asshole. If someone goes looking for an asshole among a group of any sort of “them” they want, then they will inevitably find one. I’ve known a lot of good Christians who are guided by their faith. Plenty of good Atheists too, guided by their deliberate lack of faith. I hate these sort of “them” arguments for just this reason.

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A priest I had as a child said “the Cubs haven’t won the World Series since 1908 but they still train and go to bat every season and give it their best. That’s all you can do once you walk out that door after confession.”

Granted anyone can do that, and it’s a good start. The least anyone can do is wake up and say “today I’m gonna be the best (insert full name here) I can be.”

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While many assume otherwise the Red Cross is a humanitarian organization, not a religious one.

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