It may be confusing for those who have not been on similar type of ship. I thought the drawing woukd clarify what was meant but seems I was wrong.
To be precise " the equivalent of monkey deck" was used .I dont think I had to explain what it is and where it is on merchant ships.
Seems to me, asking a question is a big problem as You seem to be focused on my interpretation of the report rather then on the report.
Somehow Alias @Jughead had no problem with this and almost immediately figured , where I was wrong and later on found out why. ( Habit of past experience on similar type of ship) , which rejected !!! the idea of somebody climbing up on top of enclosed nav bridge to con this ship from this particular position, which i find strange .Can I have such an opinion?? Do I have to ask your permission to have an opinion??
The visibility issue is debatable . But it seems to me, each time You conned your ship , then You climbed on the monkey deck . It is fine with me.
For those with past and present experience on this type of a tall ship the NTSB initial report is confusing and a clear example of word salad and strange if not deliberate use of vague terms , avoiding details like times of some commands and/or events , hence it should not be used in my opinion as a benchmark for correct vocabulary.
May be if they used glossary of terms for starters, then it would be less confusing.
Conning deck ? what the hell is this? . Why not using conning possition. Conning deck could describe the ussual , customary place from which the ships is conned. Never seen such description in the blue prints . But is monkey deck a conning place? Is bridge toilet a conning place? - could be . Is forcastle a conning place ? Is bowsprit or a yard a conning place?
What is NTSB practical experience in investigation of tall ship accidents?? Some here also claim they have shortages of experienced staf.
Sure thing .
But beauty is in the eyes of the beholder , so may be for starters lets establish if we are looking at the same thing and see the same thing. I have made the drawing to demonstarte clearly what I see , plastered painstakingly the place with pictures/films what I see and understand, links to visual material explainimg why I see it the way I see it. You are still confused?? Wow.
What have You done?? - Your default position = disagreed. I respect your position .
How about visibility from the conning place??. Alias @Jughead says ( and He is an authority here), that visibility was better from M.P. pilot conning possition during undocking of this ship.
Pilots, shrimpboat captains, tugboat captains, sailing/motor boat captains , rig masters some shipping enthusiasts here, Historians, academy and hosepipers, divers even -you name it , may have different opinion. What is wrong about it ???
I disagree but it can be debated later , as well as pilot actions , tugboat actions . There are many things here that rise eyebrows including the NTSB report , you seem to be very happy and satisfied with. Sorry some are not and what is wrong about it. ??
Finally is your last, a manifestation of your professionalism as a navigator or a manifestation of your authority here as a Supermoderator conveying in straightforward and very " polite " terms , that one user here is creating too much confusion ,causing mental torture to more gifted others, who seem to be offended and unhappy by his way of thinking and/or reasoning as they were in the case of “debunking Dr.Sal”
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