I don’t think they stack them any higher per se. I am sure they are guided by hatch stack weight allowances and stability. I have seen containerships of higher capacity go 10 high. Those ships besides having more beam often have lashing bridges that go higher which ships of the size of ONE Apus could have done…but didn’t.
Well, if I am on the foc’sle I cannot see the bridge. There are stacks of FEUs 8 high on #1 hatch. Same at the stern. No way to see the bridge. Question is how far ahead of the foc’sle you can see from the bridge when there are FEUs 8 high on #1 hatch. 0.5 mile? That’s where the big waves are. No, I think the person on the bridge only sees the horizon and some water in between … and all looks flat and nice. And on the bridge all is nice and cosy. Of course the ship pitches, yaws and heels (rolls?) in the storm outside but you are safe in your chair listening to some music in your ears.
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Heiwa ,You confound me in some of your responses. The posters on here are grumpy old men.(I am an old man but not too grumpy) I could give a flying fuck about their opinions, but do respect them… You appear to me as someone that has experience at sea. Perhaps they are tired of busting Bugs ass and picked on a new one. Fuck those miserable pricks.
I don’t want to feed the troll, but it was suggested that litigation in Japan will take years to sort out the GA claims.
I doubt that. There probably won’t be much litigation because the standard contracts for carriage contain arbitration clauses which preclude litigation. The arbitration probably won’t happen in Japan, or apply Japanese law, because the contracts will have forum selection clauses and choice of law clauses. I anticipate that the contracts probably choose the York Antwerp Rules as interpreted under UK law, and London as the forum. Probably, insurance adjusters will settle most of the claims before they go to arbitration.
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On the bridge of every container ship there is posted a diagram showing the Maximum Height of container stacks to stay within IMO rules for Minimum visibility distance Fwrd of the bow>
There may be different rules in certain ports and fairway.
Here is the diagram for the Panama canal:
I know that on"your ships" it is not a problem. No cargo blocking the view.
From the foc’sle you can always see the bridge.
Besides; the OOW is sober and tonedef. He is not distracted by listening to music. (or by Moldovan dancers)
There’s not much risk of the ship colliding with its own foc’sle is there?
I suggest next time you are on the foc’sle you jump overboard and swim out until you can see the bridge. At that point you will know that people on the bridge can see you … if they choose to do so.
I rest my case.
No. Heiwa has been here far, far longer than you have, maybe even Bug. He’s definitely earned his reputation. Anyone who has experience sailing on ships can see that he’s full of it. His latest harping about visibility, for example. It’s so easily refuted within a few minutes of being on the bridge of a ship underway. It’s also a matter of regulation… one ship length in front is the minimum visiblity. That works out to 1200’ in front of the the ONE Apus. Instead, he speculates that all they can see is the horizon. You can see much closer to the bow if you’re on one of the bridge wings. You don’t need to see the Foc’sle to see how the ship is taking the weather, heavy spray is very obvious from either bridge wing. You can also feel how the ship is taking the weather just from being on board. You aren’t going to knock containers over aft of the house and not feel the motion of the ship in the house. That’s just ludicrous. Hell, even in the engine room, where the motion tends to be reduced due to being so low in the ship, an experienced crew member can tell what’s going on outside just from listening to the ME turbos.
His lack of knowledge is a bit disturbing if he actually is as involved in ship building and operation as he claims. His seagoing experience consists of his time in his navy. In what capacity he’s served he’s never really let on. Peruse his website and form your own opinion: http://heiwaco.com/
Those are the filters through which various forum members view him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s on more “ignore” lists than anyone else.
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Oh, he has a website… holy hell, fake atomic bombs, fake space travel. This is a bit of a gold mine for at work toilet reading.
And now he has a fanboy to adore his bizarre posts.
I think you might be potentially misconstruing what I mean, but think as you wish. I will admit I appreciate reading insanity for entertainment.
You are not the fanboy. Go up a few posts.
Yes, I have been around a lot and built, inspected and operated many types of ships since 1971 and learnt a lot. So I don’t believe M/S ONE Apus was operated correctly and a dark night lost 1900 containers without anyone aboard noticing anything. It seems the ship had too high speed in severe weather and forgot the slow down or change course. So I don’t believe in sudden rolling or heeling or what they call it as an excuse. And to be clear I don’t believe in nuclear arms, humans in space, Arabs attacking USA 911, Fast Rescue Boats or that M/S Estonia lost its bow visor 1994, that my dear ship M/S Al Salam Boccaccio 98 sank due to crew incompetence 2006 (killing ~1200 persons), or that M/S Costa Concordia accidentally hit a rock 2012 , which I explain at my website. I believe in high safety at sea.
This thread was closed because it’s gone off the rails, Heiwa is going to take a break for the holidays,
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